Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
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23-10-2016, 03:00 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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23-10-2016, 03:02 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
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23-10-2016, 03:06 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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23-10-2016, 03:38 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
(23-10-2016 02:21 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(23-10-2016 02:12 PM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  Well if that image is used, four. Someone got nails through the wrong place, where it would tear quickly through that part of the hands as the person would pull themselves up (popular depictions aside). Needs to be placed just above the wrist between the ulna and the radius.

Careful, next you'll start wondering why all the pictures show adam & eve with belly buttons....

I laughed out loud. Like actually out loud. Besides, my church is cool with evolution. Now if it was when I was but a wee Baptist sandtrout, that comment would be truly scandalizing!

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23-10-2016, 05:08 PM
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(23-10-2016 02:18 PM)theBorg Wrote:  A concept is made by people. My True God is not made. Capisce?

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23-10-2016, 05:14 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
(22-10-2016 11:27 PM)theBorg Wrote:  The Gödel's contribution has only technical meaning (it is needed for the professional mathematicians) with no extend to philosophy and Religion, unless the Gödel's result would be formulated following simple way:

Quote:no theory can be proven completely. The blind faith remains.

Do you agree? If yes, then ask me to debunk this absurd.

I do not agree. Your statement has nothing to do with Gödel's work. Drinking Beverage

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23-10-2016, 05:20 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
(23-10-2016 08:21 AM)true scotsman Wrote:  
(23-10-2016 07:22 AM)theBorg Wrote:  How nice! Laugh out load So, the Gödel's theorems are not proven yet? Yes

I was just pointing out that it is improper to speak of proving a theory. Theories are confirmed or validated, not proven. It would be improper to speak of the theory of relativity being proven since it a set of general principles.

Yabut, scientific theories and theorems of mathematics are not at all the same thing.

Gödel's theorems are theorems of mathematics and are proven.

Evolution is a scientific theory that has a great deal of supporting evidence and has not been disproven.

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23-10-2016, 05:23 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
(23-10-2016 10:37 AM)Gloucester Wrote:  Astreja Wrote:
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Hence the old joke:

What is the difference between a mathematician and a philosopher?

A mathematician only needs a pencil, paper and an eraser.

A philosopher does not recognise the need, or even existence, of erasers.

Mathematicians have waste baskets; philosophers do not. Drinking Beverage

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23-10-2016, 05:34 PM
RE: Gödel theorems. Blind faith is scientific, isn't it?
(23-10-2016 02:14 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(23-10-2016 02:08 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  ........ We measure love by our hierarchy of values.

Very very theistic. Thumbsup
However a materialist will strongly disagree with your Standard Instrument: it is not among the Instruments known in Physics.

You do not understand what materialism is. It does not deny the existence of emergent properties of matter as you so ignorantly state.

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23-10-2016, 05:37 PM
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(23-10-2016 03:38 PM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  
(23-10-2016 02:21 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Careful, next you'll start wondering why all the pictures show adam & eve with belly buttons....

I laughed out loud. Like actually out loud. Besides, my church is cool with evolution. Now if it was when I was but a wee Baptist sandtrout, that comment would be truly scandalizing!

Yabut, your church has whackadoodle theology. Yes

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