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29-10-2014, 01:17 AM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(28-10-2014 05:30 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  
(28-10-2014 05:17 PM)Chas Wrote:  How about changing the thread title to "Scumbags and Ladies of the Night"?

Or "Johns and Sex Workers"? Or "Views on Prostitution"?

Or something less unequally referential?

The word "whore" in the title is in no way meant to be condemnatory.
Note I have placed gentlemen in quotation marks.

Whore -the word- carries a certain connotation. Surely, you know that.....Australian or not.
"Whore" has been and still IS meant as a slur.

So.... There's that.

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29-10-2014, 01:24 AM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(29-10-2014 01:17 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(28-10-2014 05:30 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  The word "whore" in the title is in no way meant to be condemnatory.
Note I have placed gentlemen in quotation marks.

Whore -the word- carries a certain connotation. Surely, you know that.....Australian or not.
"Whore" has been and still IS meant as a slur.

So.... There's that.

I can't wait to see what his next few threads will be titled. Consider

Slave Owners and Niggers.

Farmers and Spics.

Union Workers and Chinks.

Lower Riders and Cholos.


And maybe, if we're lucky...

Telephones and Feminists. Gasp

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29-10-2014, 01:26 AM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(29-10-2014 01:24 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(29-10-2014 01:17 AM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  Whore -the word- carries a certain connotation. Surely, you know that.....Australian or not.
"Whore" has been and still IS meant as a slur.

So.... There's that.

I can't wait to see what his next few threads will be titled. Consider

Slave Owners and Niggers.

Farmers and Spics.

Union Workers and Chinks.

Lower Riders and Cholos.


And maybe, if we're lucky...

Telephones and Feminists. Gasp

LMFAO!!!!!!

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*Gutter snort*
*tears*

Oh... The... Pain

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29-10-2014, 03:53 AM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
I'd say let's title it Pricks and Whores...

but if you're going to weigh if these leniences could lead to worse issues. Is there any data that really shows less condom usage or more issues may spread from legal prostitution? Is it at any rate different from the scenario where people if necessary were roaming harder in the streets or bars to find gratifications. It's things that really can be answered and solved when sociologically investigated thoroughly.

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29-10-2014, 04:23 AM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(29-10-2014 03:53 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  I'd say let's title it Pricks and Whores...

but if you're going to weigh if these leniences could lead to worse issues. Is there any data that really shows less condom usage or more issues may spread from legal prostitution? Is it at any rate different from the scenario where people if necessary were roaming harder in the streets or bars to find gratifications. It's things that really can be answered and solved when sociologically investigated thoroughly.

I would be interested to see more hard data. But off the top of my head, what are consequences of prostitution being illegal versus legal?

When it's illegal, it has strong parallels to when abortion is illegal; mainly that it doesn't stop, but rather moves underground. This results in an overall more dangerous scenario for the women. They cannot rely on police for protection without endangering themselves, and it's heavy stigmatization discourages regular health exams.

Making it at least as legal as professional pornography (regulated with background and health checks), would certainly make things safer for the individuals involved. It would make it far easier to ensure the women's health and safety. Here I also see parallels with the legalization of recreational drugs, in that once you legalize and regulate it, you remove power from those who profit and exploit it (drug dealers and pimps respectively). That's not to say that it won't be abused, but it's easier to catch and prevent abuses the further out into the light they are. I think more transparency is better in this case.


So without substantial evidence of an overall net-negative affect on society, I'm inclined to legalize prostitution. If it's already legal to have sex with someone for money so long as there is a camera recording it (porn), why not legalize prostitution? Much like if alcohol and it's negative affects are acceptable social risks, why not legalize marijuana? If porn and alcohol are our barometers for what is legally permissible, then prostitution and weed should both have been legal long ago.

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29-10-2014, 02:26 PM
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(28-10-2014 06:34 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(28-10-2014 05:59 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  Why don't you just address the substance and stop your usual nit picking?

I'm not nit-picking. I am pointing out that your thread title is ill-considered and shows what a dickhead you are.

A Canadian term of endearment no doubt!
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29-10-2014, 02:30 PM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(29-10-2014 04:23 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(29-10-2014 03:53 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  I'd say let's title it Pricks and Whores...

but if you're going to weigh if these leniences could lead to worse issues. Is there any data that really shows less condom usage or more issues may spread from legal prostitution? Is it at any rate different from the scenario where people if necessary were roaming harder in the streets or bars to find gratifications. It's things that really can be answered and solved when sociologically investigated thoroughly.

I would be interested to see more hard data. But off the top of my head, what are consequences of prostitution being illegal versus legal?

When it's illegal, it has strong parallels to when abortion is illegal; mainly that it doesn't stop, but rather moves underground. This results in an overall more dangerous scenario for the women. They cannot rely on police for protection without endangering themselves, and it's heavy stigmatization discourages regular health exams.

Making it at least as legal as professional pornography (regulated with background and health checks), would certainly make things safer for the individuals involved. It would make it far easier to ensure the women's health and safety. Here I also see parallels with the legalization of recreational drugs, in that once you legalize and regulate it, you remove power from those who profit and exploit it (drug dealers and pimps respectively). That's not to say that it won't be abused, but it's easier to catch and prevent abuses the further out into the light they are. I think more transparency is better in this case.


So without substantial evidence of an overall net-negative affect on society, I'm inclined to legalize prostitution. If it's already legal to have sex with someone for money so long as there is a camera recording it (porn), why not legalize prostitution? Much like if alcohol and it's negative affects are acceptable social risks, why not legalize marijuana? If porn and alcohol are our barometers for what is legally permissible, then prostitution and weed should both have been legal long ago.

Yep
..prostitutes & weed legal long long ago
Both harmless and even helpful.

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29-10-2014, 02:47 PM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(29-10-2014 04:23 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(29-10-2014 03:53 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  I'd say let's title it Pricks and Whores...

but if you're going to weigh if these leniences could lead to worse issues. Is there any data that really shows less condom usage or more issues may spread from legal prostitution? Is it at any rate different from the scenario where people if necessary were roaming harder in the streets or bars to find gratifications. It's things that really can be answered and solved when sociologically investigated thoroughly.

I would be interested to see more hard data. But off the top of my head, what are consequences of prostitution being illegal versus legal?

When it's illegal, it has strong parallels to when abortion is illegal; mainly that it doesn't stop, but rather moves underground. This results in an overall more dangerous scenario for the women. They cannot rely on police for protection without endangering themselves, and it's heavy stigmatization discourages regular health exams.

Making it at least as legal as professional pornography (regulated with background and health checks), would certainly make things safer for the individuals involved. It would make it far easier to ensure the women's health and safety. Here I also see parallels with the legalization of recreational drugs, in that once you legalize and regulate it, you remove power from those who profit and exploit it (drug dealers and pimps respectively). That's not to say that it won't be abused, but it's easier to catch and prevent abuses the further out into the light they are. I think more transparency is better in this case.


So without substantial evidence of an overall net-negative affect on society, I'm inclined to legalize prostitution. If it's already legal to have sex with someone for money so long as there is a camera recording it (porn), why not legalize prostitution? Much like if alcohol and it's negative affects are acceptable social risks, why not legalize marijuana? If porn and alcohol are our barometers for what is legally permissible, then prostitution and weed should both have been legal long ago.
I do not see the legalization of 'everything' as a really satisfactory result.
Pushing of social problems underground is of course bad as you indicate, but if some types of behaviour are socially divisive then legalizing them will not adequately address any intrinsic evil.
To use ad hoc methods to justify legal brothels may have minimal benefits, while doing such via that legitimization may create further problems. The underground aspect may well continue too, as yet another option.
If we look at the sex industry as a solid legal contributor to the economy we may be tempted to ignore hidden issues and see such as being put totally right by the legality of the business in question.
Education, of an open type will help relevant to consumer decision making.
Unfortunately, if the mass education reflects the so called rights of vested interests, via all types of consumerism, then such becomes something of a joke with Big Brother replacing the illegal pushers.
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29-10-2014, 02:51 PM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(29-10-2014 02:30 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(29-10-2014 04:23 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I would be interested to see more hard data. But off the top of my head, what are consequences of prostitution being illegal versus legal?

When it's illegal, it has strong parallels to when abortion is illegal; mainly that it doesn't stop, but rather moves underground. This results in an overall more dangerous scenario for the women. They cannot rely on police for protection without endangering themselves, and it's heavy stigmatization discourages regular health exams.

Making it at least as legal as professional pornography (regulated with background and health checks), would certainly make things safer for the individuals involved. It would make it far easier to ensure the women's health and safety. Here I also see parallels with the legalization of recreational drugs, in that once you legalize and regulate it, you remove power from those who profit and exploit it (drug dealers and pimps respectively). That's not to say that it won't be abused, but it's easier to catch and prevent abuses the further out into the light they are. I think more transparency is better in this case.


So without substantial evidence of an overall net-negative affect on society, I'm inclined to legalize prostitution. If it's already legal to have sex with someone for money so long as there is a camera recording it (porn), why not legalize prostitution? Much like if alcohol and it's negative affects are acceptable social risks, why not legalize marijuana? If porn and alcohol are our barometers for what is legally permissible, then prostitution and weed should both have been legal long ago.

Yep
..prostitutes & weed legal long long ago
Both harmless and even helpful.

Have you ever worked with addicts, or been one?
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29-10-2014, 02:51 PM
RE: Gentlemen and Whores.
(29-10-2014 02:51 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  
(29-10-2014 02:30 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  Yep
..prostitutes & weed legal long long ago
Both harmless and even helpful.

Have you ever worked with addicts, or been one?

Yes. Both.

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