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30-05-2014, 12:10 PM
RE: Getting my CCL tomorrow.
(30-05-2014 12:05 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 11:56 AM)War Horse Wrote:  Having the superior weapon or skills, rule at the end of the day..... in any country.

Only if you go out assuming that it will always end in a fight. In which case why carry something that will see you on a manslaughter charge?

If it is justified there will be no charges.

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30-05-2014, 12:14 PM
RE: Getting my CCL tomorrow.
(30-05-2014 11:47 AM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  How broken does your society have to be that you feel the need to carry a gun at all times? I've lived in three countries and not once have I ever found myself in a situation that would be improved by carrying a gun. Nor has anyone else I know.

I rather like countries that don't encourage an arms race between the criminals and the paranoid sane.

Fixed that for you. Drinking Beverage

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30-05-2014, 12:18 PM
RE: Getting my CCL tomorrow.
(30-05-2014 12:04 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 11:53 AM)Chas Wrote:  I can't run, so there's that.

Again, I'm 5'4", the other guy is 6'4" - he outreaches me with said melee weapon.

I did not say I would shoot or even draw the weapon immediately.

The mere presence of a witness, especially one who clearly makes himself known may end the confrontation.

But, guess what? That doesn't always work.

And guess what, in Britain we have baseball bats but no guns and we still get by resolving such situations without anyone getting hurt. You don't need a gun to be a witness. And if it does come to violence, the baseball bat won't necessarily win against an unarmed opponent, even one that is smaller.

Which part of "it doesn't always work" did you not understand?

Quote:My point about the bat being a long range melee weapon is that, like with Karate, that range disappears in a heartbeat in a real encounter.

The bat is a deadly weapon. I choose a different one.

Quote:A gun is overkill for an encounter with a baseball bat.

No, it isn't.

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30-05-2014, 12:19 PM
RE: Getting my CCL tomorrow.
(30-05-2014 12:05 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 11:56 AM)War Horse Wrote:  Having the superior weapon or skills, rule at the end of the day..... in any country.

Only if you go out assuming that it will always end in a fight. In which case why carry something that will see you on a manslaughter charge?

No, I know that it could end in a fight.

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30-05-2014, 12:21 PM
RE: Getting my CCL tomorrow.
(30-05-2014 12:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 11:47 AM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  How broken does your society have to be that you feel the need to carry a gun at all times? I've lived in three countries and not once have I ever found myself in a situation that would be improved by carrying a gun. Nor has anyone else I know.

I rather like countries that don't encourage an arms race between the criminals and the paranoid sane.

Fixed that for you. Drinking Beverage

Bollocks you have. Feeling the need to carry a gun all the time in a civilised society is being paranoid.
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30-05-2014, 12:23 PM
RE: Getting my CCL tomorrow.
(30-05-2014 12:21 PM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 12:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  Fixed that for you. Drinking Beverage

Bollocks you have. Feeling the need to carry a gun all the time in a civilised society is being paranoid.

I didn't know watching a guy get out of his car and threaten a woman was being paranoid.

Maybe I need to read the dictionary more.

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30-05-2014, 12:29 PM
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If you're worried about going up against someone with a baseball bat, why not carry a pot of black or cayenne pepper with the grill removed and an easy flip off lid that can be deployed in a single throw.

Take it from me, it works.
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30-05-2014, 12:30 PM
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(30-05-2014 12:23 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 12:21 PM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  Bollocks you have. Feeling the need to carry a gun all the time in a civilised society is being paranoid.

I didn't know watching a guy get out of his car and threaten a woman was being paranoid.

Maybe I need to read the dictionary more.

That happens in other countries too, yet people don't feel the need for a gun. What's different about the USA?
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30-05-2014, 12:33 PM
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Hmm... Consider if I were the woman, I might have grabbed my phone and filmed him coming toward my vehicle with his bat. Then, I could just run over him ... may need to bash into his vehicle as well, just to get past.

Video evidence would confirm the threat and my 3 ton car is bigger than his ball bat. Only thing left is to hope he has insurance. Drinking Beverage all nice & tidy

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30-05-2014, 12:35 PM
RE: Getting my CCL tomorrow.
(30-05-2014 12:21 PM)Elder Cunningham Wrote:  
(30-05-2014 12:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  Fixed that for you. Drinking Beverage

Bollocks you have. Feeling the need to carry a gun all the time in a civilised society is being paranoid.

I don't live in a civilized society. I live in the U.S.A. Drinking Beverage

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