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20-09-2012, 06:13 AM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
Bah, humbug.


You have to be a dualist to believe in ghosts.

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20-09-2012, 07:57 AM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
This discussion reminds me of a thread that someone started on another forum I frequent. The OP is a nutjob who has already stated in past threads that she doesn't trust the scientific method because she thinks magic is real. Her reasoning is that ghosts have to be real since all cultures around the world believe in such beings. In fact, she invoked Occam's Razor just to make her point. I countered that the most obvious reason, using Occam's Razor, is that the common belief descends from an earlier belief held by the ancestral human population living in ancient Africa. The belief stayed with each group that split off from the original population and spread into different parts of the world. She has ignored this by stating that "hardcore skeptics" also believe in ghosts. This is in reference to one member who claims to be an atheist who believes in ghosts. It turns out the guy is actually a deist with "raving insomnia," which means his visions of ghosts are most likely Hypnagogic hallucinations. Check the thread out for a good laugh.
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21-09-2012, 02:40 PM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
(20-09-2012 06:13 AM)Chas Wrote:  Bah, humbug.


You have to be a dualist to believe in ghosts.

I'm not saying I believe in ghosts - not by any means - but I can't help but love the shows.

Then again, I enjoy Jurassic Park, too. Doesn't mean I think there are dinosaurs running around everywhere Wink

It's purely entertainment for me.

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21-09-2012, 02:49 PM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
Ain't afraid of no ghosts, but those NSA spooks are scary as fuck.

And yeah I like watching those shows, too. ... They're satire, right?

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21-09-2012, 04:27 PM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
(21-09-2012 02:49 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Ain't afraid of no ghosts, but those NSA spooks are scary as fuck.

And yeah I like watching those shows, too. ... They're satire, right?

Just keep repeating:
"No Such Agency, No Such Agency, No Such Agency, ..."

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21-09-2012, 04:36 PM (This post was last modified: 21-09-2012 04:41 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
(21-09-2012 04:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(21-09-2012 02:49 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Ain't afraid of no ghosts, but those NSA spooks are scary as fuck.

And yeah I like watching those shows, too. ... They're satire, right?

Just keep repeating:
"No Such Agency, No Such Agency, No Such Agency, ..."

Everything will be all right.Yes
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Works for a while. Until Bill (no last name) and Bob (no last name) approach my organization and ask "Can you build us an app to do this?" and Girly answers "Why yes, yes I believe we can." Blink

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21-09-2012, 04:38 PM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
(21-09-2012 04:36 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(21-09-2012 04:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  Just keep repeating:
"No Such Agency, No Such Agency, No Such Agency, ..."

Everything will be all right.Yes

Works for a while. Until Bill (no last name) and Bob (no last name) approach my organization and ask "Can you build us an app to do this?" and Girly answers "Why yes, yes I can." Blink

They're, um, hobbyists. Yeah, that's it, hobbyists. Yeah. Yes

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21-09-2012, 04:48 PM
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(21-09-2012 04:38 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(21-09-2012 04:36 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Works for a while. Until Bill (no last name) and Bob (no last name) approach my organization and ask "Can you build us an app to do this?" and Girly answers "Why yes, yes I can." Blink

They're, um, hobbyists. Yeah, that's it, hobbyists. Yeah. Yes

I'm just helping out motherfucking scary motherfuckers who I have no prayer of ever sumoing with their science fair projects so they can get their High School Diplomas. I can get behind that. ... That helps. Thumbsup

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21-09-2012, 05:37 PM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
Im still very open minded about ghosts..... I have been on many ghost hunts myself and experienced things that cannot (at this moment) be explained and I am a very critical person who would prefer to find logical reasons to certain occurences.

I will say that whilst ghost programmes on the television are very entertaining, they are in no way representative of the ghost hunts I have been on personally. They seem to try and show all the "good" bits whilst ignoring all of the ghost hunts where nothing or very little happens.

They jazz things up......... a lot.

If your into ghosts.... go on ghost hunts.... your eyes will be opened.

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21-09-2012, 05:41 PM
RE: Ghosts and Spooks
Yeah, those shows are great. I don't know why they haven't figured to put closet cams in. Those doors aren't camera shy.

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