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13-07-2016, 02:12 PM (This post was last modified: 13-07-2016 02:27 PM by Bucky Ball.)
Ginsberg going to live with Muffsy if Trump wins
'Now it's time for us to move to New Zealand" Justice Ginsburg said, smiling ruefully.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/07/11/ruth-b...-trump-win

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13-07-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: Ginsberg going to live with Muffsy if Trump wins
She really should have kept her mouth shut here. Nothing good comes from her saying this publicly.

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13-07-2016, 03:08 PM
RE: Ginsberg going to live with Muffsy if Trump wins
(13-07-2016 02:48 PM)BnW Wrote:  She really should have kept her mouth shut here. Nothing good comes from her saying this publicly.

Well, she was quoting her dead husband. Yes

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13-07-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: Ginsberg going to live with Muffsy if Trump wins
It was a stupid thing for her to do. All she did was compromise the perception of her objectivity.

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14-07-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Ginsberg going to live with Muffsy if Trump wins
(13-07-2016 02:48 PM)BnW Wrote:  She really should have kept her mouth shut here. Nothing good comes from her saying this publicly.
At least one good thing came of it:

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14-07-2016, 08:19 AM
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(13-07-2016 03:26 PM)BnW Wrote:  It was a stupid thing for her to do. All she did was compromise the perception of her objectivity.

Bullshit, Alito said something infinitely worse like 2 weeks ago and nobody gave a fuck. Scalia made a lucrative side career of saying the worst bullshit that he then used in his actual decisions. This got press because it is part of "The Story of the year" Donald Trump, had one of the conservative justices said the same thing about Hillary it would not have made page 3.

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14-07-2016, 08:38 AM
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I'm gonna go to live with Muffsy too. NZ sounds like a great place, and the few people from there I have met in person have been cool.

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14-07-2016, 08:49 AM
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I thought Ginsberg died with the rest of the Beats???

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14-07-2016, 08:50 AM (This post was last modified: 14-07-2016 08:55 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Ginsberg going to live with Muffsy if Trump wins
(14-07-2016 08:19 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Scalia made a lucrative side career of saying the worst bullshit that he used in his actual decisions.

^^^^ this ^^^^
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As NPR pointed out last evening, there is a LONG history of political connections to presidents and candidates and commentary by justices of SCOTUS in the US.
She just happens to be a (brilliant) woman, so is held to a different standard.
Trump said "Her mind is shot" .... insulting not only her, but all older people in general. Fucker will never get elected.

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14-07-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: Ginsberg going to live with Muffsy if Trump wins
(14-07-2016 08:19 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(13-07-2016 03:26 PM)BnW Wrote:  It was a stupid thing for her to do. All she did was compromise the perception of her objectivity.

Bullshit, Alito said something infinitely worse like 2 weeks ago and nobody gave a fuck. Scalia made a lucrative side career of saying the worst bullshit that he then used in his actual decisions. This got press because it is part of "The Story of the year" Donald Trump, had one of the conservative justices said the same thing about Hillary it would not have made page 3.

I have identified a new logical fallacy. I call it the "other people do bad things" fallacy. I think how it works is pretty obvious, but, basically, it's when you try to skirt an argument against a person or statement you agree with by highlighting that someone in a similar type of position did something bad, which may not be in any way related to the actual point.

The issue isn't her voicing an opinion. The issue is her weighing in on a political campaign. What happens if this election ends up in a similar situation as the Bush v Gore election? When it's before the Supreme Court, is she going to recuse herself? She just said she doesn't think Trump should be President. How can she rule objectivelyon any issue a Trump administration would bring before the court? She has completely called into question her willingness to be an impartial jurist. Find me any example where Scalia or Alito or any Justice weighed in on a specific campaign or individual.

I'll wait.

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