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29-03-2013, 02:24 AM
RE: God?
(29-03-2013 02:22 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(29-03-2013 02:18 AM)fstratzero Wrote:  I think we all get that impression from reading the bible.

Now your shifting the goal post. The original post wasn't about the God of the bible but rather a generic O3 god.

"Hell" kinda makes it specific.

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29-03-2013, 02:26 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 10:55 PM by Doctor X.)
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29-03-2013, 02:30 AM
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(29-03-2013 02:24 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(29-03-2013 02:22 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Now your shifting the goal post. The original post wasn't about the God of the bible but rather a generic O3 god.

"Hell" kinda makes it specific.

Not really, suppose he used Hades or Gre'thor instead of "hell"....would it have changed his point?
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29-03-2013, 02:31 AM
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(29-03-2013 02:23 AM)Doctor X Wrote:  
(29-03-2013 02:14 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Why do you think God has some moral obligation to interfere with the affairs of men?

If he is not Evil, Incompetent, Irrelevant, or Some Combination of those.

And if he is he is worthy of no regard, and certainly no respect, from Gentlemen.

So . . . it appears you worship either the Evil, Incompetent, Irrelevant, or Some Combination of Evil, Incompetent, and/ or Irrelevant.

How unfortunate.

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What you wrote makes no sense. Please re-phrase
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29-03-2013, 02:33 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 10:55 PM by Doctor X.)
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29-03-2013, 02:34 AM
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(29-03-2013 02:30 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(29-03-2013 02:24 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  "Hell" kinda makes it specific.

Not really, suppose he used Hades or Gre'thor instead of "hell"....would it have changed his point?

suppose he used.... Uranus! whispers the spirit of Erxy... but he didn't.

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29-03-2013, 02:34 AM (This post was last modified: 29-03-2013 02:38 AM by fstratzero.)
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(28-03-2013 10:37 PM)godwho Wrote:   If "god" is all knowing and all powerful, then, "god" is all responsible! I prefer to believe there is a "god" simply because I then have someone to hold completely responsible for all the murders, rapes, child abuse, and wars etc.! Of course, being a highly intelligent person I completely despise this so called creator. If there is a "hell", then "god" is the one being that should inhabit it for all eternity. He is the APEX, and therefore he alone is responsible for everything and everyone he "creates"; good, bad, or otherwise... that is what one gets when one creates!

If we are talking about the christian god, then reading the bible should be a bit more troubling.

In a nut shell god needed an ego boost, made people to make him self feel better, ultimately to win a false war and destroy his own creation. The god of theology is insane, and very sadistic.

He creates and then annihilates, sending an uncountable number of people to be tortured infinitely, and enjoys his exclusive club of worshipers.

Nothing is more evil that a god who would send even one person to endure an eternity of suffering. Ten billion Hitlers, or eleven billion Hiroshima's could never match the amount of suffering god would inflict if he were real.

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29-03-2013, 02:38 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 10:55 PM by Doctor X.)
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29-03-2013, 02:42 AM
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(29-03-2013 02:34 AM)fstratzero Wrote:  
(28-03-2013 10:37 PM)godwho Wrote:   If "god" is all knowing and all powerful, then, "god" is all responsible! I prefer to believe there is a "god" simply because I then have someone to hold completely responsible for all the murders, rapes, child abuse, and wars etc.! Of course, being a highly intelligent person I completely despise this so called creator. If there is a "hell", then "god" is the one being that should inhabit it for all eternity. He is the APEX, and therefore he alone is responsible for everything and everyone he "creates"; good, bad, or otherwise... that is what one gets when one creates!

If we are talking about the christian god, then reading the bible should be a bit more troubling.

In a nut shell god needed an ego boost, made people to make him self feel better, ultimately to win a false war and destroy his own creation. The god of theology is insane, and very sadistic.

It could be that God expects us to manage our own affairs and not be too dependent on Him.

It could be that God is like you and simply doesn't care. If you really cared about bad things happening to innocent people, you'd be out patrolling the streets to prevent them instead of wasting your time arguing about God on the internet.
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29-03-2013, 02:45 AM (This post was last modified: 29-03-2013 02:48 AM by fstratzero.)
RE: God?
(29-03-2013 02:42 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(29-03-2013 02:34 AM)fstratzero Wrote:  If we are talking about the christian god, then reading the bible should be a bit more troubling.

In a nut shell god needed an ego boost, made people to make him self feel better, ultimately to win a false war and destroy his own creation. The god of theology is insane, and very sadistic.

It could be that God expects us to manage our own affairs and not be too dependent on Him.

It could be that God is like you and simply doesn't care. If you really cared about bad things happening to innocent people, you'd be out patrolling the streets to prevent them instead of wasting your time arguing about God on the internet.

What kind of god do you actually believe in?

All loving(I think we can scratch this one off the list)
All knowing?
All powerful?
Omnipresent?

I think once you shave off enough features of the god character you'll find you are left with a being that is simply very powerful, and indistinguishable from aliens. At which point you'd simply be left with atheism.

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