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22-11-2015, 05:33 PM
RE: God = Kim Jong-il
(22-11-2015 02:46 PM)Alla Wrote:  mgoering:
He protects us from harm,
Alla:
Not really. He sends us into harmful place - Earth.

Quote: He sends us into harmful place -Earth.

Your invisible, never-proven-to-exist-except-in-your-head god is a sadistic bastard.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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22-11-2015, 05:52 PM
RE: God = Kim Jong-il
(22-11-2015 05:28 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Entertaining a thought includes unbiased contemplation, not assumption, willful ignorance, and insulting the intelligence or the individual asserting the idea.

A belief held out of faith and not evidence deserves ridicule in my opinion. Belief through faith is nothing but bias, assumption, and willful ignorance.

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22-11-2015, 09:40 PM
RE: God = Kim Jong-il
(22-11-2015 05:52 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(22-11-2015 05:28 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Entertaining a thought includes unbiased contemplation, not assumption, willful ignorance, and insulting the intelligence or the individual asserting the idea.

A belief held out of faith and not evidence deserves ridicule in my opinion. Belief through faith is nothing but bias, assumption, and willful ignorance.
Sure buddy. Willful ignorance would be denying things that are known. Such as science in many cases, and Faith in some.
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22-11-2015, 10:08 PM
RE: God = Kim Jong-il
(22-11-2015 09:40 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(22-11-2015 05:52 PM)unfogged Wrote:  A belief held out of faith and not evidence deserves ridicule in my opinion. Belief through faith is nothing but bias, assumption, and willful ignorance.
Sure buddy. Willful ignorance would be denying things that are known. Such as science in many cases, and Faith in some.

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22-11-2015, 11:57 PM
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Prove it.
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23-11-2015, 02:06 AM
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(22-11-2015 11:57 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Prove it.

prove what exactly ?

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23-11-2015, 06:34 AM
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(22-11-2015 09:40 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Sure buddy. Willful ignorance would be denying things that are known. Such as science in many cases, and Faith in some.

Willful ignorance can also be found in clinging to beliefs despite having no reason to do so. Faith can be used as a crutch for any claim at all which shows that it is actually not valid support for any claim. Reliance on faith is something to be ashamed of.

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23-11-2015, 07:56 AM
RE: God = Kim Jong-il
(23-11-2015 06:34 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(22-11-2015 09:40 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Sure buddy. Willful ignorance would be denying things that are known. Such as science in many cases, and Faith in some.

Willful ignorance can also be found in clinging to beliefs despite having no reason to do so. Faith can be used as a crutch for any claim at all which shows that it is actually not valid support for any claim. Reliance on faith is something to be ashamed of.
Oh yeah? Why would someone have shame from knowledge or Faith? That makes no sense. If one doesn't attempt to share what they know then that could lead to shame.
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23-11-2015, 08:00 AM
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Clinging to a believe despite contrary factual evedince is willful ignorance. Faith does not conflict with any fact I know of, there for, not falling into the "willful ignorance category".

Surely some religious beliefs contradict scientific truths, these exceptions could be seen as willful ignorance.
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23-11-2015, 08:08 AM
RE: God = Kim Jong-il
(23-11-2015 07:56 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(23-11-2015 06:34 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Willful ignorance can also be found in clinging to beliefs despite having no reason to do so. Faith can be used as a crutch for any claim at all which shows that it is actually not valid support for any claim. Reliance on faith is something to be ashamed of.
Oh yeah? Why would someone have shame from knowledge or Faith? That makes no sense. If one doesn't attempt to share what they know then that could lead to shame.

He didn't say knowledge - just faith.

Faith is not knowledge and saying it is makes you a moron.

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