God is Imaginary and Non-Existent
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05-02-2013, 10:36 AM
RE: God is Imaginary and Non-Existent
(05-02-2013 09:50 AM)Egor Wrote:  God is the fundamental monistic consciousness. That's all we can really say about Him. This is no doubt a limiting term, but it's all we can deal with given the parameters of our intellect. His personality is all our personalities and His Word is Jesus Christ.

Therefore, it's not the existence of God that is in question, it's the true existence of everything else. Everything is "of" God's substance, so is anything really real?

A dream is a model for what I'm talking about. In a dream, the only thing that is really real is your mind. Everything in the dream is made from that fundamental monistic substance, that is your mind. So, the question is not do "you" exist, but does anything else in the dream exist?

And this brings us to an even more ironic situation. All these atheist vs. theist debates are pointless, because all we are really debating is the existence of the only thing that does exist.

In my forum, when it is fully operational, the main way I will defeat atheism is to show that atheists really do believe in God. Everyone believes in God. The atheism is just a pretense for something else.
Good illustration of the "imaginary" part of the OP. Tongue

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05-02-2013, 10:53 AM
RE: God is Imaginary and Non-Existent
Honestly, I don't see the imaginary as that much of a problem, fantasy and imagination are wonderful traits and very useful in many walks of life, for a creative person like me even more so. A way to reconcile both worlds can be done through art, music etc... Yet I know what is imaginary and what is real.

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05-02-2013, 11:03 AM
RE: God is Imaginary and Non-Existent
(05-02-2013 09:50 AM)Egor Wrote:  In my forum, when it is fully operational, the main way I will defeat atheism is to show that atheists really do believe in God. Everyone believes in God. The atheism is just a pretense for something else.
Apart from the fact that the christian god just happens to be your god, because you were born in a certain part of the planet, where some happen to worship this god. If you were muslim, you would say the exact thing about a god called Allah and you'd hate the christian one that you praise so much right now. So for what is atheism a pretense again?

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