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30-06-2015, 06:02 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 05:46 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  I do know though.

Just can't prove it.

That means you 'believe' not that you 'know'.

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30-06-2015, 06:09 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
That is the difference in false belief and Faith. I have full 100% conviction in what I feel. My feelings come from my mind that science can't define. So, how could they possibly define something that I feel is completely true?
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30-06-2015, 06:13 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 06:09 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  That is the difference in false belief and Faith. I have full 100% conviction in what I feel. My feelings come from my mind that science can't define. So, how could they possibly define something that I feel is completely true?

Your feelings aren't proof of anything other than your feelings.

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30-06-2015, 06:15 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 06:09 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  That is the difference in false belief and Faith. I have full 100% conviction in what I feel. My feelings come from my mind that science can't define. So, how could they possibly define something that I feel is completely true?

Troll!

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30-06-2015, 06:22 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 06:13 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(30-06-2015 06:09 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  That is the difference in false belief and Faith. I have full 100% conviction in what I feel. My feelings come from my mind that science can't define. So, how could they possibly define something that I feel is completely true?

Your feelings aren't proof of anything other than your feelings.
So feelings aren't of any significance? They aren't real. You're feelings are the most intimate connection we have with anything and they come from the mind. They are based in experience and you're own knowledge.

If you were in the woods and a pack of rabid, jaw snapping, dogs were approaching you would know for sure that your life was in danger. Not from learning about dogs in a book, or class, but from feeling, instinct, emotion.
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30-06-2015, 06:26 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 06:22 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(30-06-2015 06:13 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Your feelings aren't proof of anything other than your feelings.
So feelings aren't of any significance? They aren't real.

You have to be a troll. It is hard to believe that anybody could honestly misread something so simple that badly.

Your feelings are real. They certainly have significance to you, if not others. They just aren't proof of anything external to your mind.

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30-06-2015, 06:29 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
Don't fall for it Anjelle. This guy is a troll if ever I saw one. And I used to be an administrator at Landover Baptist. We were getting 6 million hits a month at one point.

This guy has all the qualities of the troll.

How to spot a troll.

(1) Posts inflammatory comments, not to engage in serious conversation, but to "grief" or annoy an online community.

(2) An obvious glee and elated satisfaction is aroused in them when people join the fight and reply to their deliberately disruptive comments.

(3) Copies and pastes large blocks of text to exhaust the readers of a topic thread, thus driving away legitimate posters of sincere comments. These blocks of text are often recycled and appeared on a variety of threads.

(4) Tends to avoid complimenting people who disagree with them, even when those in opposition to the troll make some valid points.

(5) Shuns any conciliatory statements like "You have obviously spent a lot of time studying this subject, and I'm not certain how to reply to your last remark, so let's shake hands, part as friends, and move on."

(6) Never ends a debate with "Thanks for the discussion" or "I'll consider what you say" or any other finalizing remark, because they love arguing and disrupting civilized conversations.

(7) Keeps an argument going a lot longer than a normal person would, to the point where people will start asking a moderator to turn off comments or block the troll. However, sometimes people will do this just because they can't tolerate contrary opinions and are angry at seeing them posted to a thread they enjoyed reading. The mark of a troll is to keep hammering away at a point in an obsessive manner.

(8) Acts innocent when called a troll, and states "I'm just stating a contrary opinion, and you can't handle it", but the reality is they are not innocent, they are trouble-makers who only post inflammatory remarks, rarely contributing any real value or good information to a discussion.

(9) Starts saying filthy words and making wild accusations when confronted. Their hostility and provoking rhetoric escalates when you ask them if they might be a troll or if they are simply trying to stir up trouble.

(10) When you mention the name of another well-known forum, Second Life, or blogospheric troll, they defend them and accuse you of not understanding that person because you're a tyrannical censoring fascist or whatever.

(11) Will try to bring up issues that they are angry about, no matter what the topic of a thread is. For example, they will say things like "sounds like the Open Source movement" or "reminds me of Tea Baggers" or "you're sounding like a typical commie libtard now" or "you sound like some irrational Creationism crank" or "you atheists are all the same", or whatever it is they're hostile toward, in an attempt to start a new argument within the current debate.

(12) When people realize or are warned that the person is a troll, and the troll is then ignored, and nobody will respond to anything they say, the trolling person tends to give up and go to some other thread. They crave attention and they try to get it by being obnoxious in a juvenile, or scholarly, manner.

(13) They use a nickname, are anonymous, or use a real sounding name, but do not embed a link to their blog or website in their name, as is common in comment forms. This lack of accountability enables them to get away with saying anything they want, to anybody, and even tell outright lies about what they saw or heard.

(14) They, when not confronted or exposed sufficiently, will seek to have the last word in an online discussion. When nobody responds to their last troll comment, they will proudly proclaim that they "won" what they fantasize as a "content" or "battle".

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30-06-2015, 06:30 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 06:26 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(30-06-2015 06:22 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  So feelings aren't of any significance? They aren't real.

You have to be a troll. It is hard to believe that anybody could honestly misread something so simple that badly.

Your feelings are real. They certainly have significance to you, if not others. They just aren't proof of anything external to your mind.
They dictate everyone's actions on every level and are universal to everyone in ways
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30-06-2015, 06:33 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 06:30 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  They dictate everyone's actions on every level and are universal to everyone in ways

TROLL!

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30-06-2015, 06:35 PM
RE: God is a terrible father
(30-06-2015 06:30 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(30-06-2015 06:26 PM)unfogged Wrote:  You have to be a troll. It is hard to believe that anybody could honestly misread something so simple that badly.

Your feelings are real. They certainly have significance to you, if not others. They just aren't proof of anything external to your mind.
They dictate everyone's actions on every level and are universal to everyone in ways

Please speak for yourself only; you are not privy to what motivates others. I take my feelings into account, and I may sometimes allow them too much control, but they do not dictate my actions on every level.

ETA: and you changed the subject. Feelings, however real or significant, are not proof of anything.

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