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07-10-2014, 10:54 AM
God needed another angel
Can someone explain to me where this thinking came from? It seems to imply that humans become angels when they die, though passages in the Bible like Psalm 8:4-5 and Job 38:4-7 show that man was created separately from angels.

It's obviously all just self-soothing mumbo-jumbo people tell themselves to deal with the fact that a friend or loved one is gone, but I'm just curious if anything in the Bible may have inspired it.

"I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me."
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07-10-2014, 11:12 AM
RE: God needed another angel
It's probably derived from Matthew 18:14 -"So it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones perish."

But reading the parable of the lost sheep, Jesus is not talking about children, he's talking about lost people in general.
It's comforting to them to think children will automatically go to heaven, but there is not a single verse in the bible that supports it directly, it's only using loose interpretations of Matthew 18:14 to support the notion.

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07-10-2014, 11:51 AM
RE: God needed another angel
Whenever I see your name pop up TheInquisition, I get the Mel Brooks song playing in my head from History of the World Pt 1.

Nonetheless a totally awesome reply


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07-10-2014, 11:53 AM
RE: God needed another angel
They say that about anyone who dies, they said it about my husband and he was far from being a child or an angel. Tongue

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07-10-2014, 11:58 AM
RE: God needed another angel
(07-10-2014 11:51 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Whenever I see your name pop up TheInquisition, I get the Mel Brooks song playing in my head from History of the World Pt 1.

Nonetheless a totally awesome reply




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07-10-2014, 12:14 PM
RE: God needed another angel
Thanks Revs


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07-10-2014, 01:04 PM
RE: God needed another angel
A child dies. The cognitive dissonance begins.

Theist thinks: "Why God, oh why?! He/she was so young!" Gasp

**clammy hands, cold sweats, upset stomach, and grief begin**

Theist continues: "It doesn't make any sense! Wait, but it MUST make sense. God MUST have a good reason. It must be part of his plan. Yeah that's it, he has a plan for the child." Yes

**starting to feel better now**

Theist continues: "Yeah, but what plan...? I bet God's going to make the child into an angel! Yeah, that must be it! And God couldn't wait because he needs an angel now!"

**feeling much better**

Theist continues: "But why does God need an angel now and why couldn't God just make one? Why take this child?" Consider

**dismisses cognitive dissonance outright; would rather feel better**

Theist continues: "Well the child's better off in heaven anyway. Lucky kid. I wish I could be enjoying the complete bliss right now too." Undecided

And from then on, no further thought required:
"God needed another angel."

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07-10-2014, 01:29 PM
RE: God needed another angel
(07-10-2014 01:04 PM)Impulse Wrote:  A child dies. The cognitive dissonance begins.

Theist thinks: "Why God, oh why?! He/she was so young!" Gasp

**clammy hands, cold sweats, upset stomach, and grief begin**

Theist continues: "It doesn't make any sense! Wait, but it MUST make sense. God MUST have a good reason. It must be part of his plan. Yeah that's it, he has a plan for the child." Yes

**starting to feel better now**

Theist continues: "Yeah, but what plan...? I bet God's going to make the child into an angel! Yeah, that must be it! And God couldn't wait because he needs an angel now!"

**feeling much better**

Theist continues: "But why does God need an angel now and why couldn't God just make one? Why take this child?" Consider

**dismisses cognitive dissonance outright; would rather feel better**

Theist continues: "Well the child's better off in heaven anyway. Lucky kid. I wish I could be enjoying the complete bliss right now too." Undecided

And from then on, no further thought required:
"God needed another angel."

That's pretty much the line of thinking I imagine taking place.

Matthew 18:14 is close I suppose, but seems to deal more with kids (or people in general) going to heaven rather than actually becoming angels. My assumption is it's just wishful thinking on the part of Christians, but this verse is closer than I'd found. Thanks!

"I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me."
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07-10-2014, 09:39 PM
RE: God needed another angel
How many does he need?

He must have fucking billions by now...

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