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19-05-2014, 06:20 PM
God no God its a belief thing
I wanted to give my opinion on what a person believes as spiritual and atheist. Its really quit simple and there should not be such a debate surrounding it. A religious or spiritual person looks at life and creation that it is bigger then themselves and states that there is a greater power then themselves and the mysteries of life are not able to be explained by the mind of mankind. Therefore they turn there worship to a higher power. An atheist looks at life and creation as being able to explained by the knowledge of mankind, and not only by mankind but by there own individual understanding. Atheist therefore are a God unto themselves they have professed what is ultimate reality for everyone.
The 3 questions you ask. How did everything come into creation? By what or who created everything? And by whos autority is this given. An atheist will say, Nothing began creation, Nothing created everything, and by my authority I claim this as fact. A spiritual or religious person will answer. God was the beginning of everything, God created everything, and Its by Gods aurthority we believe this to be fact.
The difference is the worship of a higher power and surrendering to that higher power as having a greater mind then ours. Atheist believe in self worship, that they are the highest power and there is none greater. And to show this is simple just ask an atheist how they know this or who told them there is no God? they will reply I DID.
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19-05-2014, 06:40 PM
RE: God no God its a belief thing
(19-05-2014 06:20 PM)mchgroove Wrote:  I wanted to give my opinion on what a person believes as spiritual and atheist. Its really quit simple and there should not be such a debate surrounding it. A religious or spiritual person looks at life and creation that it is bigger then themselves and states that there is a greater power then themselves and the mysteries of life are not able to be explained by the mind of mankind. Therefore they turn there worship to a higher power. An atheist looks at life and creation as being able to explained by the knowledge of mankind, and not only by mankind but by there own individual understanding. Atheist therefore are a God unto themselves they have professed what is ultimate reality for everyone.
The 3 questions you ask. How did everything come into creation? By what or who created everything? And by whos autority is this given. An atheist will say, Nothing began creation, Nothing created everything, and by my authority I claim this as fact. A spiritual or religious person will answer. God was the beginning of everything, God created everything, and Its by Gods aurthority we believe this to be fact.
The difference is the worship of a higher power and surrendering to that higher power as having a greater mind then ours. Atheist believe in self worship, that they are the highest power and there is none greater. And to show this is simple just ask an atheist how they know this or who told them there is no God? they will reply I DID.

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19-05-2014, 06:42 PM
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(19-05-2014 06:20 PM)mchgroove Wrote:  And to show this is simple just ask an atheist how they know this or who told them there is no God? they will reply I DID.

That's not true. The Bible showed me there is no God.

"I'm an atheist because I have read it."

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19-05-2014, 06:44 PM
RE: God no God its a belief thing
(19-05-2014 06:20 PM)mchgroove Wrote:  I wanted to give my opinion on what a person believes as spiritual and atheist. Its really quit simple and there should not be such a debate surrounding it. A religious or spiritual person looks at life and creation that it is bigger then themselves and states that there is a greater power then themselves and the mysteries of life are not able to be explained by the mind of mankind. Therefore they turn there worship to a higher power. An atheist looks at life and creation as being able to explained by the knowledge of mankind, and not only by mankind but by there own individual understanding. Atheist therefore are a God unto themselves they have professed what is ultimate reality for everyone.
The 3 questions you ask. How did everything come into creation? By what or who created everything? And by whos autority is this given. An atheist will say, Nothing began creation, Nothing created everything, and by my authority I claim this as fact. A spiritual or religious person will answer. God was the beginning of everything, God created everything, and Its by Gods aurthority we believe this to be fact.
The difference is the worship of a higher power and surrendering to that higher power as having a greater mind then ours. Atheist believe in self worship, that they are the highest power and there is none greater. And to show this is simple just ask an atheist how they know this or who told them there is no God? they will reply I DID.




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19-05-2014, 06:46 PM (This post was last modified: 19-05-2014 07:08 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: God no God its a belief thing
Wrong in every respect. This one doesn't even know one atheist.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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19-05-2014, 06:50 PM
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(19-05-2014 06:46 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Wrong in every repect. This one doesn't even know one atheist.

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19-05-2014, 06:50 PM
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Ignorance on parade.Drinking Beverage


Are you interested in discussing why?

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19-05-2014, 07:03 PM
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Not really!

Someone claiming Santa Claus exists shows me a reindeer that has a glowing red nose and can fly wearing a collar that reads "Rudolph", my skepticism of that claim might cease. Until then I believe God, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, etc... exist as much as you might believe the Tooth Fairy exists (I'm assuming you don't believe in the Tooth Fairy, ofcourse). It's as simple as that!

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19-05-2014, 07:06 PM
God no God its a belief thing
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19-05-2014, 07:07 PM
RE: God no God its a belief thing
belief
An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

Show us a tin of paint and we will not agree on its color, but tell me what color it is without showing me the tin, then we have a problem.
Until the tin of paint is presented, its not a belief its not there, its a fact.
Especially when the only evidence for its existence, are thousand year old stories that claim many tins of many colours, and you can never find the tin, it has to find you, but only if you are willing to believe its real before your look for it.

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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