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31-05-2012, 07:35 PM
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The angry gods require sacrifice. Now get outside and slay them a goat. Cadet in Terse But Deadly
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01-06-2012, 08:53 AM
RE: God on trial
It's an interesting piece not because of how bad this imaginary friend really is, but because of the "moral argument" for god. So much of modern Christianity is built on works like "Mere Christianity", which themselves are based on the moral argument. The argument is that if we assume there is an absolute morality and that any absolute morality must come from an absolute morality giver then an absolute morality giver must exist... and oh by the way (spoilers!) it is the Christian god.

The thing is that even if you accept the absurd assumptions the argument itself predicts that god will be perfectly moral. If we find gaps in the perfect morality of god to the extent that even a mere human would be more moral, then we pretty much exclude the Christian god from being the god that has been "proved" through the moral argument.

If the Bible is true, then the god it describes is not perfectly moral. Either that god is not the perfect morality giver or there is in fact no such absolute morality giver - or both!

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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04-06-2012, 01:17 AM
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I just finished watching it; that is one powerful film. The ending would have made a lesser man cry.

One of the Jews-turned-atheists, who is a former physicist, makes the argument that god's covenant with the Jewish people seems silly given that he created millions of stars, with incalculable encircling planets, in our galaxy alone. His point was that out of the entire universe where god could have focused his attention, it seems improbable that he would chose not only earth, but more specifically the land of Israel and the Jewish people.
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04-06-2012, 02:01 AM
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(31-05-2012 07:35 PM)San Onofre Surfer Wrote:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4Tnrsk...re=related
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04-06-2012, 01:53 PM
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(04-06-2012 02:01 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(31-05-2012 07:35 PM)San Onofre Surfer Wrote:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4Tnrsk...re=related
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