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16-02-2015, 06:38 PM (This post was last modified: 17-02-2015 01:42 PM by ronb2c.)
God's damned creations.
Why does God allow life on Earth to continue, knowing that the large majority of it’s inhabitance are destined, for Hell? It is He who creates man with a sin nature. And, as the Bible states in
Jeremiah 17:9
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked”

The, the grim reality is that the mass majority of Earths inhabitance are destined for punishment. Scripture confirms this in the following passage:

(Matthew 7:14)
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The fact that we are condemned from birth, and yet charged with the responsibility of securing salvation within the course of a lifetime, is both cruel and unreasonable. Considering how high the odds are stacked against us, and the magnitude of punishment at stake; what soul would willing chose to incarnate here? Earth can justifiably be described as a place where souls are forced to participate, in what can only be described as the highest stakes game in the universe. A game no one would chose to play.

So, why wouldn't an omniscient and loving God put an end to this world, and spare future generations the agony and torment of eternal damnation? Why does God instruct Noah to repopulate the Earth after the flood? Why populate the Earth, one again with a race of beings that are damned? How counter-intuitive.
See Geneses chapter 9:1
“And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.” God gave this command with full knowledge that billions would ultimately stand condemned to everlasting punishment.
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16-02-2015, 07:54 PM (This post was last modified: 16-02-2015 07:58 PM by pablo.)
RE: The most malevolant being in the universe.
(16-02-2015 06:38 PM)ronb2c Wrote:  Why does God allow life on Earth to continue, knowing that the large majority of it’s inhabitants are destined, for Hell? It is He who creates man with a sin nature. And, as the Bible states in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 17:9, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and beyond cure” (NIV)

This is man’s starting point - the way he is created. The, grim reality is that the vast majority of Earths inhabitants will be condemned to ever lasting punishment. Scripture confirms this in the following passage:

Matthew 7: 13 &,14  “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.1414 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it”. (NIV)

The fact that we are condemned from birth, yet charged with the responsibility of securing salvation within the course of a lifetime, is both cruel and unreasonable. Considering how high the odds are stacked against us, and the magnitude of punishment which awaits us. What soul would willingly chose to incarnate to this planet? Earth can justifiably be thought of as a place where souls are forced to participate, in what can only be described as the highest stakes game in the universe. A game that no one would willingly choose to play.

Am I missing something here?

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16-02-2015, 08:47 PM
RE: The most malevolant being in the universe.
Quote:Scripture confirms this
and Harry Potter confirms I can cast a patronus charm

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17-02-2015, 06:13 AM
RE: The most malevolant being in the universe.
(16-02-2015 06:38 PM)ronb2c Wrote:  The fact that we are condemned from birth, yet charged with the responsibility of securing salvation within the course of a lifetime, is both cruel and unreasonable.

Am I missing something here?

This makes complete sense if you are a part of a group trying to control and convince people of your belief system. If you don't have enough swords to convert someone, the next best thing is to threaten them with something imaginary -hell!

You go to the happy place after you die as long as you believe the right thing, if you don't believe, you go to a horrible place.

Why should anyone take a person spewing this seriously? As long as you can convince someone that they could live forever, something they really want to believe anyway, you have a new convert.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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17-02-2015, 06:28 AM
RE: The most malevolant being in the universe.
(16-02-2015 06:38 PM)ronb2c Wrote:  Am I missing something here?

How about a point

"If there's a single thing that life teaches us, it's that wishing doesn't make it so." - Lev Grossman
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19-02-2015, 11:11 PM
RE: God's damned creations.
Step 1: Take your bible, and set it on fire
step 2: dance on its ashes
step 3: Be happy.

The bible is about as truthful as Harry Potter... in fact the shit that happens in Harry Potter is more believable than the bible.
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20-02-2015, 11:35 AM
RE: God's damned creations.
IDK, maybe because he is an incredible dick?

"If we are honest—and scientists have to be—we must admit that religion is a jumble of false assertions, with no basis in reality.
The very idea of God is a product of the human imagination."
- Paul Dirac
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20-02-2015, 02:41 PM
RE: God's damned creations.
(16-02-2015 06:38 PM)ronb2c Wrote:  So, why wouldn't an omniscient and loving God put an end to this world, and spare future generations the agony and torment of eternal damnation? Why does God instruct Noah to repopulate the Earth after the flood? Why populate the Earth, one again with a race of beings that are damned? How counter-intuitive.

Here's the thing about God being "all loving": the only one who makes this claim with any degree of "credibility" is God himself, and we can't be sure he's not lying. It certainly doesn't look like he's telling the truth, and he's never attempted to explain himself. The best his supporters can muster is to say that he "works in mysterious ways".
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22-02-2015, 12:54 PM
RE: God's damned creations.
(19-02-2015 11:11 PM)ResistenceXD0001 Wrote:  Step 1: Take your bible, and set it on fire
step 2: dance on its ashes
step 3: Be happy.

The bible is about as truthful as Harry Potter... in fact the shit that happens in Harry Potter is more believable than the bible.

and has an actual plot in the beginning, middle and end
characters we can relate to
doesn't internally contradict itself on every chance it gets
have good pacing for the story
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23-02-2015, 01:29 PM
RE: God's damned creations.
I know that bible is been corrupted but it doest mean there is no god
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