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23-09-2012, 12:50 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
So what you are saying is that god exists cause evolution always produces god like beings?

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23-09-2012, 01:09 PM
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Evolution is a mindless algorithmic process. No goal, no direction, no intentionality.





Please mention something that you consider that has goal.

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ClydeLee - 19-09-2012 11:27 PM
It seems you have some hang up with thinking of consciousness as a grant step in evolution. Evolution doesn't work in steps or phases in that way you perceive.




It is simple ClydeLee, Think in the first unicellular being it has two choices to eat, one material help it to live the another one kill him. To take a decision between one or another is a consciousness step.

If you do not see this example as a conscious step, please mention when do you see consciousness begun in the evolution chain:


unicellular organisms -------------Multicellular organisms --------- animals --------humans

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Bucky Ball: Consciousness is an emergent process from complexity.
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Dear Bucky Ball, this Consciousness ( emergent process from complexity).
It is not just one more tool life uses to survive?
Bucky Ball:___________________________

(YOUR NAME):_____________________________


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vosur
Janus, instead of collecting replies without responding to them and spamming this thread with this nonsense, how about you just intelligently and clearly state your argument/hypothesis so that we can comment on it? Are you so dense that you don't realize that what you're currently doing is a waste of time?


Is not a waste of time, it saves time, because we can see where are we stand and grow from here.

The argument/hypothesis is simple. The first living creature has two choices to live and to die, it keep growing until today because he selected to live. Any obstacle in the universe is going to be overcome, from selecting the right food to control dark energy and black holes.


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fstratzero
So what you are saying is that god exists cause evolution always produces god like beings?


If you analyse evolution and life what its tell you?
“The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”


“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
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23-09-2012, 01:15 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(23-09-2012 01:09 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  The argument/hypothesis is simple. The first living creature has two choices to live and to die, it keep growing until today because he selected to live. Any obstacle in the universe is going to be overcome, from selecting the right food to control dark energy and black holes.
Good. Now you have to provide evidence that supports your argument/hypothesis.

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23-09-2012, 01:22 PM
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.... Janus VI please stop with your idiotic answer-design. And Copy&Paste the same over and over again isn't helping your cause and certainly not our understanding... (although I doubt there's much to understand)

It sucks to read this thread like this...
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23-09-2012, 01:23 PM (This post was last modified: 23-09-2012 01:27 PM by Janus VI.)
RE: God the absolute truth
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CHAS
Evolution is a mindless algorithmic process. No goal, no direction, no intentionality.





Please mention something that you consider that has goal.

CHAS :__________________
DLJ :___Football Match Do I win a prize?_ yes, Knowledge, now you can read your answer and learn what a "thinking" atheist does to evade the truth____
GODLESS:____________________
VOSUR : any videogame
KidCharlemagne1962 : Religion -To control people
(YOUR NAME):______________


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ClydeLee - 19-09-2012 11:27 PM
It seems you have some hang up with thinking of consciousness as a grant step in evolution. Evolution doesn't work in steps or phases in that way you perceive.




It is simple ClydeLee, Think in the first unicellular being it has two choices to eat, one material help it to live the another one kill him. To take a decision between one or another is a consciousness step.

If you do not see this example as a conscious step, please mention when do you see consciousness begun in the evolution chain:


unicellular organisms -------------Multicellular organisms --------- animals --------humans

CLYDELEE :____________________________
Bucky Ball: Consciousness is an emergent process from complexity.
(YOUR NAME):_____________________________



..........................3333333333333333333333333.............................​.....

Dear Bucky Ball, this Consciousness ( emergent process from complexity).
It is not just one more tool life uses to survive?
Bucky Ball:___________________________

(YOUR NAME):_____________________________


......................................4444444444444444..........................​............

vosur
Janus, instead of collecting replies without responding to them and spamming this thread with this nonsense, how about you just intelligently and clearly state your argument/hypothesis so that we can comment on it? Are you so dense that you don't realize that what you're currently doing is a waste of time?


Is not a waste of time, it saves time, because we can see where are we stand and grow from here.

The argument/hypothesis is simple. The first living creature has two choices to live and to die, it keep growing until today because he selected to live. Any obstacle in the universe is going to be overcome, from selecting the right food to control dark energy and black holes.


......................555555555555555555........................
fstratzero
So what you are saying is that god exists cause evolution always produces god like beings?


If you analyse evolution and life what its tell you?
“The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”


“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

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VOSUR
Good. Now you have to provide evidence that supports your argument/hypothesis.



Evidence: Life grows from a single cellular being, to cover the earth. Astrophysics understand that life is the path of controlling galaxies and be immortal.

If you disagree with this view Vosur, please tell us what percentage of the universe do life wants to control to stay alive?

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VIPA
... Janus VI please stop with your idiotic answer-design. And Copy&Paste the same over and over again isn't helping your cause and certainly not our understanding... (although I doubt there's much to understand)

It sucks to read this thread like this...



This helps you understand why atheists do not like to think.
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23-09-2012, 01:36 PM
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Let's say life always leads to god like species.

What do god like space aliens have to do with christianity?

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23-09-2012, 01:37 PM (This post was last modified: 23-09-2012 02:50 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: God the absolute truth
(23-09-2012 01:23 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  This helps you understand why atheists do not like to think.
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23-09-2012, 01:52 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(23-09-2012 01:23 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  Evidence: Life grows from a single cellular being, to cover the earth.
And how does this support your argument?

(23-09-2012 01:23 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  Astrophysics understand that life is the path of controlling galaxies and be immortal.
No, not at all. Life being the path of controlling galaxies and becoming immortal has absolutely nothing to do with Astrophysics. Besides that, you clearly don't know what life is.

(23-09-2012 01:23 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  If you disagree with this view Vosur, please tell us what percentage of the universe do life wants to control to stay alive?
Again, life doesn't have any desires or goals, organisms do. Now, which organisms are you talking about?

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23-09-2012, 01:57 PM (This post was last modified: 29-09-2012 05:44 AM by Bucky Ball.)
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Hey guys. I really like to fill out forms. Especially really stupid ones.

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23-09-2012, 03:02 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
......................1111111111111................................
CHAS
Evolution is a mindless algorithmic process. No goal, no direction, no intentionality.





Please mention something that you consider that has goal.

CHAS :__________________
DLJ :___Football Match Do I win a prize?_ yes, Knowledge, now you can read your answer and learn what a "thinking" atheist does to evade the truth____
GODLESS:____________________
VOSUR : any videogame
KidCharlemagne1962 : Religion -To control people
(YOUR NAME):______________


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ClydeLee - 19-09-2012 11:27 PM
It seems you have some hang up with thinking of consciousness as a grant step in evolution. Evolution doesn't work in steps or phases in that way you perceive.




It is simple ClydeLee, Think in the first unicellular being it has two choices to eat, one material help it to live the another one kill him. To take a decision between one or another is a consciousness step.

If you do not see this example as a conscious step, please mention when do you see consciousness begun in the evolution chain:


unicellular organisms -------------Multicellular organisms --------- animals --------humans

CLYDELEE :____________________________
Bucky Ball: Consciousness is an emergent process from complexity.
(YOUR NAME):_____________________________



..........................3333333333333333333333333.............................​.....

Dear Bucky Ball, this Consciousness ( emergent process from complexity).
It is not just one more tool life uses to survive?
Bucky Ball:___________________________

(YOUR NAME):_____________________________


......................................4444444444444444..........................​............

vosur
Janus, instead of collecting replies without responding to them and spamming this thread with this nonsense, how about you just intelligently and clearly state your argument/hypothesis so that we can comment on it? Are you so dense that you don't realize that what you're currently doing is a waste of time?


Is not a waste of time, it saves time, because we can see where are we stand and grow from here.

The argument/hypothesis is simple. The first living creature has two choices to live and to die, it keep growing until today because he selected to live. Any obstacle in the universe is going to be overcome, from selecting the right food to control dark energy and black holes.


......................555555555555555555........................
fstratzero
So what you are saying is that god exists cause evolution always produces god like beings?


If you analyse evolution and life what its tell you?
“The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”


“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

...........................666666666666666666...................
VOSUR
Good. Now you have to provide evidence that supports your argument/hypothesis.



Evidence: Life grows from a single cellular being, to cover the earth. Astrophysics understand that life is the path of controlling galaxies and be immortal.

If you disagree with this view Vosur, please tell us what percentage of the universe do life wants to control to stay alive?

VOSUR: ____________________

(YOUR NAME):_______________



...............................777777777777777777777............................​..
VIPA
... Janus VI please stop with your idiotic answer-design. And Copy&Paste the same over and over again isn't helping your cause and certainly not our understanding... (although I doubt there's much to understand)

It sucks to read this thread like this...



This helps you understand why atheists do not like to think.


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fstratzero
Let's say life always leads to god like species.

What do god like space aliens have to do with christianity?


I do not try to prove Christianity now, just to help you understand that God is the absolute truth.

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Thank you Girlyman, truth is fun.

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VOSUR
Janus VI Wrote:
Evidence: Life grows from a single cellular being, to cover the earth.
And how does this support your argument?


Shows the pattern of life.



VOSUR
(Today 02:23 PM)Janus VI Wrote:
Astrophysics understand that life is the path of controlling galaxies and be immortal.
No, not at all. Life being the path of controlling galaxies and becoming immortal has absolutely nothing to do with Astrophysics. Besides that, you clearly don't know what life is.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI6vANpHhOA

Do you now understand what astrophysics believe?
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VOSUR
(Today 02:23 PM)Janus VI Wrote:
If you disagree with this view Vosur, please tell us what percentage of the universe do life wants to control to stay alive?
Again, life doesn't have any desires or goals, organisms do. Now, which organisms are you talking about?


We can use Humans as an example.
Do you see that since the beginning of civilization the goal as been to control the universe?
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