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12-09-2012, 12:17 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(10-09-2012 12:01 AM)Janus VI Wrote:  The life's goal in the universe is to control the universe.

Therefore:

God = the way, and the truth, and the life.

That makes absolutely no sense. Complete non sequitur.

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12-09-2012, 12:27 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(12-09-2012 12:17 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(10-09-2012 12:01 AM)Janus VI Wrote:  The life's goal in the universe is to control the universe.

Therefore:

God = the way, and the truth, and the life.

That makes absolutely no sense. Complete non sequitur.

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Do you see that life's goal is to be almighty?

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12-09-2012, 12:30 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(12-09-2012 12:27 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  
(12-09-2012 12:17 PM)Chas Wrote:  That makes absolutely no sense. Complete non sequitur.

Do you see the Real Way of Life?

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Do you see that life's goal is to be almighty?

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Please define "Real Way of Life".

Life does not have a goal. Individuals have goals.

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12-09-2012, 12:41 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(12-09-2012 12:30 PM)Chas Wrote:  please define "Real Way of Life".

Life does not have a goal. Individuals have goals.

The Real way of life: the pattern life shows from a single cell being 3.5 billion years ago, covering the earth today and controlling the universe in the future.

You do not see goal in life.

You see goals in individuals.

Do you see the goal of individuals since the beginning of civilization?

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12-09-2012, 12:44 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(12-09-2012 12:41 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  Do you see the goal of individuals since the beginning of civilization?
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12-09-2012, 12:47 PM
RE: God the absolute truth
(12-09-2012 12:41 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  
(12-09-2012 12:30 PM)Chas Wrote:  please define "Real Way of Life".

Life does not have a goal. Individuals have goals.

The Real way of life: the pattern life shows from a single cell being 3.5 billion years ago, covering the earth today and controlling the universe in the future.

You do not see goal in life.

You see goals in individuals.

Do you see the goal of individuals since the beginning of civilization?

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I'm not interested in playing 20 questions.

If you have a thesis, please state it.

Life has occurred, and evolution has made it varied.
There is no purpose to life, it just is.
There is no goal to evolution, it is change in response to environment.
Individual organisms appear to have goals.

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12-09-2012, 12:59 PM
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(12-09-2012 12:11 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  Take a look at an apple seed; do you see an intention in the seed?

No. The implied "intention" is seen there as a result of your brain chemistry. The seed is a wad of chemicals and DNA. There is no "intention", implicit in the seed. That notion exists in you brain, as a result of a complex process, which you have projected onto the see. (Have you ever taken Psychology, or Neuro-chemistry ?)

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12-09-2012, 01:56 PM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2012 02:07 PM by fstratzero.)
RE: God the absolute truth
(12-09-2012 12:41 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  
(12-09-2012 12:30 PM)Chas Wrote:  please define "Real Way of Life".

Life does not have a goal. Individuals have goals.

The Real way of life: the pattern life shows from a single cell being 3.5 billion years ago, covering the earth today and controlling the universe in the future.

The various environments change regardless of what life "wants" or doesn't "want". Also the notion of one cell starting life is an error.

It came from one species of replicating cells.

Also it sounded like you were talking about time traveling amoebas........

Quote:You do not see goal in life.

This one is for Chas to take.

Quote:You see goals in individuals.

Do you not see goals in groups that work together?


Quote:Do you see the goal of individuals since the beginning of civilization?


What does civilization have to do with anything?

Pretty much you are trying to say sense individuals have goals life has a goal.

I'd argue that is not the case.

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12-09-2012, 02:18 PM
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FSTRATZERO

- Life has occurred, and evolution has made it varied.
- There is no purpose to life, it just is.
- There is no goal to evolution, it is change in response to environment.
- Individual organisms appear to have goals.
- The implied "intention" is seen there as a result of your brain chemistry.
- The seed is a wad of chemicals and DNA.
- There is no "intention", implic it in the seed. That notion exists in you brain, as a result of a complex process, which you h ave projected onto the see. (Have you ever taken Psychology, or Neuro-chemistry ?)
- What does civilization have to do with anything?

If you have a thesis, please state it.



1) Life uses different tools to survive.

CHAS [ ] agree [ ] disagree

BUCKY BALL: [ ] agree [ ] disagree

FSTRATZERO : [ ] agree [ ] disagree

(your name): [ ] agree [ ] disagree


2) Complex brain processes and civilization are just some of the tools life uses to achieve the goal: survive.

CHAS [ ] agree [ ] disagree

BUCKY BALL: [ ] agree [ ] disagree


FSTRATZERO : [ ] agree [ ] disagree


(your name): [ ] agree [ ] disagree



3) Ergo, from the ALPHA to the OMEGA of life, the goal as been the same: To be almighty.


CHAS [ ] agree [ ] disagree

BUCKY BALL: [ ] agree [ ] disagree


FSTRATZERO : [ ] agree [ ] disagree


(your name): [ ] agree [ ] disagree
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12-09-2012, 02:20 PM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2012 02:29 PM by Chas.)
RE: God the absolute truth
(12-09-2012 02:18 PM)Janus VI Wrote:  CHAS
BUCKY BALL
FSTRATZERO

- Life has occurred, and evolution has made it varied.
- There is no purpose to life, it just is.
- There is no goal to evolution, it is change in response to environment.
- Individual organisms appear to have goals.
- The implied "intention" is seen there as a result of your brain chemistry.
- The seed is a wad of chemicals and DNA.
- There is no "intention", implic it in the seed. That notion exists in you brain, as a result of a complex process, which you h ave projected onto the see. (Have you ever taken Psychology, or Neuro-chemistry ?)
- What does civilization have to do with anything?

If you have a thesis, please state it.



1) Life uses different tools to survive.

CHAS [ ] agree [ ] disagree

BUCKY BALL: [ ] agree [ ] disagree

FSTRATZERO : [ ] agree [ ] disagree

(your name): [ ] agree [ ] disagree


2) Complex brain processes and civilization are just some of the tools life uses to achieve the goal: survive.

CHAS [ ] agree [ ] disagree

BUCKY BALL: [ ] agree [ ] disagree


FSTRATZERO : [ ] agree [ ] disagree


(your name): [ ] agree [ ] disagree



3) Ergo, from the ALPHA to the OMEGA of life, the goal as been the same: To be almighty.


CHAS [ ] agree [ ] disagree

BUCKY BALL: [ ] agree [ ] disagree


FSTRATZERO : [ ] agree [ ] disagree


(your name): [ ] agree [ ] disagree


Life does not have a goal. Or are you only talking about human life?

Read up on evolution.

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