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09-04-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 10:18 AM)Matheism Wrote:  What conversation? Smile

The premise is "truth has no religion."

Quote:He made all gods one god. (38.5)

True or false?

If false, why? Drinking Beverage

False. Because there are no gods.

We made one god from nothing.

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09-04-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(07-04-2016 01:58 AM)Matheism Wrote:  There is no such thing as God... but Truth.. absolute truth.

(06-04-2016 09:07 PM)Matheism Wrote:  لا إله إلا الله

No Slavery (لا إله) : False Self (because people are not "things")

Only Allah (إلا الله) : Truth.. one and absolute truth, your Real Self.

Quote:(Allah) ...breathed My Spirit into him. (15.29)


No God... because "He made all gods one god".
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09-04-2016, 10:35 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
Adam is the astrolabe of the attributes of Divine Sublimity:
the nature of Adam is the theatre for His revelations.

Since in eternity it was the will and decree of God,
the Forgiver, to reveal and manifest Himself,

This involves opposition, for nothing can be shown without an opposite;
and there was no opposite to that incomparable King.

Therefore He made a viceroy, one having a heart,
in order that he might be a mirror for His sovereignty.

So he endowed him with infinite purity (spiritual light),
and then set up an opposite against him in the form of darkness.

Know that the world of created beings is like pure and limpid water
in which the attributes of the Almighty are shining.

Their knowledge, their justice and their clemency
are like a star of heaven reflected in running water.

Kings are the theatre for the manifestation of God’s kingship;
the Wise are the mirrors for God’s wisdom.

The beautiful are the mirror of His beauty:
love for them is the reflection of the desire of which He is the real object.

This cheek and mole go back to their Source:
how should a phantom stay in the water forever?

The whole sum of pictured forms (phenomena) is mere reflection in the water of the river:
when you rub your eye, you will perceive that all of them are really He.

This resembles the other reflections; but in reality it is not a reflection,
it is the appearance of God in the likeness of a reflection.

How should the qibla (object of worship), namely, the Divine Unity, be two?

How should earth be worshipped by the angels?

[When I have formed him and breathed My spirit into him, fall down in prostration before him (Adam, man). (15.29)]

The Khwāja is the God-man of whom God said You did not throw when you threw:
to see him is to see the Creator.
To serve him is to serve God:
to see this window is to see the Daylight.

Listen, let your inner eye and your heart pass beyond (transcend) the bodily clay!


This is One Qibla (object of worship):

Do not see two qiblas.

Do not say ‘two’,

Do not know ‘two’,

and do not call ‘two’:

consider the slave to be effaced in his master.


~Rumi
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09-04-2016, 10:36 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
Consider

(09-04-2016 10:27 AM)Matheism Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 01:58 AM)Matheism Wrote:  There is no such thing as God... but Truth.. absolute truth.

(06-04-2016 09:07 PM)Matheism Wrote:  لا إله إلا الله

No Slavery (لا إله) : False Self (because people are not "things")

Only Allah (إلا الله) : Truth.. one and absolute truth, your Real Self.


No God... because "He made all gods one god".

So... no deity..... made all deities... one deity... and there's no deities?

Consider

Sorry.. I think I'm missing something in the presentation.

Could you ad some exposition, perhaps?

Edit: I'll get to reading your quick response. Thumbsup
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09-04-2016, 10:42 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 10:27 AM)Matheism Wrote:  No God... because "He made all gods one god".

No gods. All gods. One god.

There's this nifty little widget that the Sumerians came up with called an abacus. Give it a whirl some time.

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09-04-2016, 11:00 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 10:18 AM)Matheism Wrote:  What conversation? Smile

Nice of you to admit that you make no pretense at actually engaging in conversation.

Quote:The premise is "truth has no religion."

That is not a premise, it is just a slogan. Without an explanation of what you mean by that it can be interpreted multiple ways and so is useless.

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Quote:He made all gods one god. (38.5)

True or false?

If false, why? Drinking Beverage

It is neither true nor false as you have not elaborated on what you intend it to mean. With no reference you are not accomplishing anything but spamming the forum with what amounts to nothing more than gibberish. Empty slogans and quran quotes with no context are just a waste of time.

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09-04-2016, 11:05 AM (This post was last modified: 09-04-2016 11:12 AM by Matheism.)
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
In logic, a statement is either (a) a meaningful declarative sentence that is either true or false, or (b) that which a true or false declarative sentence asserts. In the latter case, a statement is distinct from a sentence in that a sentence is only one formulation of a statement, whereas there may be many other formulations expressing the same statement. Statement (logic)

For example: "Truth has no religion."
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09-04-2016, 11:08 AM
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09-04-2016, 11:15 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 10:35 AM)Matheism Wrote:  Adam is the astrolabe of the attributes of Divine Sublimity:
the nature of Adam is the theatre for His revelations.

Since in eternity it was the will and decree of God,
the Forgiver, to reveal and manifest Himself,

This involves opposition, for nothing can be shown without an opposite;
and there was no opposite to that incomparable King.

Therefore He made a viceroy, one having a heart,
in order that he might be a mirror for His sovereignty.

So he endowed him with infinite purity (spiritual light),
and then set up an opposite against him in the form of darkness.

Know that the world of created beings is like pure and limpid water
in which the attributes of the Almighty are shining.

Their knowledge, their justice and their clemency
are like a star of heaven reflected in running water.

Kings are the theatre for the manifestation of God’s kingship;
the Wise are the mirrors for God’s wisdom.

The beautiful are the mirror of His beauty:
love for them is the reflection of the desire of which He is the real object.

This cheek and mole go back to their Source:
how should a phantom stay in the water forever?

The whole sum of pictured forms (phenomena) is mere reflection in the water of the river:
when you rub your eye, you will perceive that all of them are really He.

This resembles the other reflections; but in reality it is not a reflection,
it is the appearance of God in the likeness of a reflection.

How should the qibla (object of worship), namely, the Divine Unity, be two?

How should earth be worshipped by the angels?

[When I have formed him and breathed My spirit into him, fall down in prostration before him (Adam, man). (15.29)]

The Khwāja is the God-man of whom God said You did not throw when you threw:
to see him is to see the Creator.
To serve him is to serve God:
to see this window is to see the Daylight.

Listen, let your inner eye and your heart pass beyond (transcend) the bodily clay!


This is One Qibla (object of worship):

Do not see two qiblas.

Do not say ‘two’,

Do not know ‘two’,

and do not call ‘two’:

consider the slave to be effaced in his master.


~Rumi

I have but one "quibla".
And no, you can't see it.

Be sure the nurse knows where you are.
Almost time for pills.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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09-04-2016, 11:22 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 11:05 AM)Matheism Wrote:  In logic, a statement is either (a) a meaningful declarative sentence that is either true or false, or (b) that which a true or false declarative sentence asserts. In the latter case, a statement is distinct from a sentence in that a sentence is only one formulation of a statement, whereas there may be many other formulations expressing the same statement. Statement (logic)

For example: "Truth has no religion."

Except that "truth has no religion" is not a meaningful declarative sentence. It is a vacuous slogan or, at best, a deepity.

Truth has no health insurance.
Truth has no higher education.
Truth has no kidney stones.

Your posts have no value.

See how easy it is?

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