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09-04-2016, 04:34 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
These statements of "truth" and "real self" are equally as nonsense as the statements of god and religion.

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09-04-2016, 04:37 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
real self vs. false self....

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09-04-2016, 04:39 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  
(09-04-2016 04:13 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  I also get the distinction that you don't understand what Atheism means.

I do...

The Dogma of Atheism

Atheism is the ultimate form of denial of the Parental "God".
Bullshit, you dont.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Atheism is not founded on real observation of the ultimate facts of the universe. Rather, it is a kind of adolescent development of the human species.
Bullshit, you are full of $hit. There are no "ultimate" facts, like there is no ultimate green.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  What characterizes the doctrine (or dogma) of atheism is not a discovery that there is no "God", but a refusal to acknowledge every kind of parent (or parent-like authority), including (therefore) the Parental "God" of childish "religion".
Bullshit, again

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Atheism (or the conception that no "Creator-God" — or any other Greater Reality — exists) has always opposed theism (or "God-religion"). Nevertheless, atheistic ideas are the product of the same fundamental egoic consciousness that otherwise produces theistic (or conventional "religious") ideas.
Bullshit again, you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Atheism is the product of the ego (or the phenomenal "self", grounded in elemental perception), and so also is theism. Atheism, like exoteric "God-religion", extends itself only into the domain of the first three stages of life — whereas esoteric "God-religion" provides a means for entering, mystically and Spiritually, into the developmental processes of the fourth stage of life and the fifth stage of life.
New agey islam-ish Bullshit and word salad.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Atheism regularly proposes a "logic" of life that has its own dogmatic features. It does not propose a "God"-idea but, instead, founds itself on and in the perceptual and phenomenal mind alone.
Bulshit. you now described like five times what atheism is, and not once was any of your statements about atheism correct. Pull your head out of your ass.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Atheism concedes only a universal and ultimately indifferent (or merely lawful) cosmic Nature (not a "God") — and, so, there is no need to create a "religious creation-myth" to account for suffering. (And atheistic thinkers thus generally confine themselves to constructing a cosmology, based on material observations alone, that merely accounts for the apparent workings of the conditionally manifested events of cosmic Nature.)
So what?
P.S.: Stop being a pompous idiot.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Indeed, just as conventional "God-religion" (or conventional theism) arises to account for suffering, atheism arises on the basis of the unreserved acknowledgment of suffering. And, if there is no idea of "God", there is no idea of the human being as "creature" (or, in other words, the human being as the bearer of an immortal, or "God-like", "inner" part). Nor is there any need to interpret unfortunate or painful events as the "effects" of "Evil".
Bullshit. Are you done with your masturbation soon?
Got a god? Got evidence for its existence? No? Then stop posting bullshit and fuck off.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Therefore, the atheistic "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "realism", just as the conventional "religious" (or theistic) "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "idealism" — but both atheism and theism arise on the basis of the "self"-contraction (or the ego of phenomenal "self"-consciousness), rather than on the basis of direct Intuition of the Real Self-Nature, Self-Condition, and Self-State That is Prior to separate "self" and its conventions of perception and thought.
Bla, bla, bla. Stop self-masturbating!

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  The realistic (or atheistic) view is just as much the bearer of a myth (or a merely conceptual interpretation of the "world") as is the conventional "religious" (or theistic) view. Atheism (or conventional realism) is a state of mind which is based in the phenomenal "self" and which seeks the ultimate protection, nourishment, pleasure, and preservation of the phenomenal "self" (at least in this "world" and, if there should be an after-life, then also in any other "world").
Spamming bullshit for 17 pages and then telling that others view is "the bearer of a myth" out of the blue!? Fuck off, self-masturbatory asshole.

(09-04-2016 04:17 PM)Matheism Wrote:  Therefore, atheism (or conventional realism) is simply a philosophical alternative to theism (or conventional "God-religion"), based on the same principle and consciousness (which is the phenomenal ego), and seeking (by alternative means) to fulfill the conditionally manifested "self" and relieve it of its suffering.
No, you are just a self important, self-masturbatory, self important idiot.
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09-04-2016, 04:40 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 04:37 PM)Matheism Wrote:  real self vs. false self....

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The difference is an illusion

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09-04-2016, 04:43 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
99.9999% empty space..... atom.

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09-04-2016, 04:44 PM
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(09-04-2016 04:43 PM)Matheism Wrote:  99.9999% empty space..... your brain.

Fixed it for you
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09-04-2016, 04:47 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 04:44 PM)Deesse23 Wrote:  Fixed it for you

thank you..

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09-04-2016, 04:53 PM
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(09-04-2016 04:34 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  These statements of "truth" and "real self" are equally as nonsense as the statements of god and religion.

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09-04-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
"Experiential truth is the wisdom of sub empirical love"

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09-04-2016, 05:03 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
I can find more meaningful bullshit on the Deepak Chopra generator:
"The universe differentiates into dimensionless reality, but hidden meaning is inside boundless love. The human nervous system is rooted in unique space time events, but existence inspires the door of molecules."
Do you hold any thoughts of your own, or are you so full of quotes that there is nothing left in you?

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