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09-04-2016, 06:33 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 06:30 PM)Matheism Wrote:  [quote='Matheism' pid='975977' dateline='1459998428']لا إله إلا الله

No Slavery (لا إله) : False Self (because people are not "things")

Only Allah (إلا الله) : Truth.. one and absolute truth, your Real Self.

Okay... how does that connect to the previous comments?

Consider
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09-04-2016, 06:35 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM."
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09-04-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 06:33 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Okay... how does that connect to the previous comments?Consider

(Allah) ...breathed My Spirit into him. (15.29)
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09-04-2016, 06:39 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 02:19 PM)Matheism Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 09:07 PM)Matheism Wrote:  

It doesn't matter because all human beings are searching for the same "spirit" (real self.. God, One Spirit)

willingly (believers) or unwillingly (disbelievers)..

Quote:Is it other than God's system (of spirit) that they desire, when those in the heavens and the Earth have surrendered to Him voluntarily (believers) or by force (disbelivers) And to Him they will be returned. (3.83)

People hate the truth. Luckily, the truth does not care. Smile



willingly.. or unwillingly...
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09-04-2016, 06:41 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 06:27 PM)Matheism Wrote:  
(09-04-2016 06:21 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  
Questions for MaTheist:

Is Allah the One True God? Is Muhammad His Prophet? Is the Quran a book of Divine guidance?

1. There is no god.

2. Muhammad is a Messenger, and anyone can be a Messenger.

3. The true Quran is guided by Allah, and it is only a path, not the point. All people are Muslims, willingly, or unwillingly because god is equivalent to spirit. Quran is part of the guidance, and it must be supported by the Sunnatullah (laws of nature, science etc) and unity of mankind (ie. no slavery).

Kindly reconcile points 1, 2 and 3. Specifically:
- If there is no god (1) then who/what is Allah (3)?
- If there is no god (1) then what is this god that is equivalent to spirit (3)?
- If there is no god (1) then who/what is Muhammad a Messenger for(2)?

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09-04-2016, 06:41 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
spirit (energy) is one... paths are many.

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09-04-2016, 06:42 PM (This post was last modified: 09-04-2016 06:45 PM by Peebothuhul.)
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 06:36 PM)Matheism Wrote:  
(09-04-2016 06:33 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Okay... how does that connect to the previous comments?Consider

(Allah) ...breathed My Spirit into him. (15.29)

No

Nope, sorry.. still not understanding anything currently.

How does; "Truth has no religion."

In any way, shape or form have any bearing, meaning, connotation or connection to something like;

"(Allah) ...breathed My Spirit into him."

Consider

Who is the 'My' in the second sentence?
What is a 'Spirit'?
Which deity is the word Allah referring to? Since, technically on the translation, it's just a different language's word for 'god'.

(Or.. an 'alternate' word for god/deity. I'm pretty sure once the concept behind the word is understood then they can all kind of be used interchangeably...)

Edit:

(09-04-2016 06:41 PM)Matheism Wrote:  spirit (energy) is one... paths are many.

What sort of energy?

Potential energy?

Electrical energy?

Chemical energy?

Atomic/nuclear force energy?

Again, please give a coherent definition of what 'spirit' is. Or what a 'spirit' is.

Since, currently, the above post could be written as "Pernuckle (Energy) is one... paths are many"
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09-04-2016, 06:45 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 06:41 PM)Paleophyte Wrote:  Kindly reconcile points 1, 2 and 3.

- If there is no god (1) then who/what is Allah (3)?
- If there is no god (1) then what is this god that is equivalent to spirit (3)?
- If there is no god (1) then who/what is Muhammad a Messenger for(2)?

no one knew... "god" is for human understanding (interpretation clause) ...

and it is all about the spirit, real self....

for discovering truth.



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09-04-2016, 06:46 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(09-04-2016 06:42 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  How does; "Truth has no religion."

How does truth has religion? Bigotism?
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09-04-2016, 06:52 PM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
So, Matheism, are you a Mewlewī Sufi ?

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