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10-04-2016, 10:56 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:48 AM)Matheism Wrote:  
(10-04-2016 10:45 AM)Dom Wrote:  You believe in all gods. That is preferable to fighting the religious wars that have plagued humanity for ever.

We believe in no gods. That also solves the issue of religious wars.

all gods = no god

"This is not complicated."

I've said it before and I still find it holds, there is little to no practical difference between pantheism and atheism. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Panentheism is the party crasher. Big Grin

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10-04-2016, 10:56 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
No
You made the claim here.
Prove it here. Now.

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10-04-2016, 10:56 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:54 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  That's a claim, not an argument.
Are you 12 years old ? (You write like one).

Yes it is a claim... so what defines you? Tell me...
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10-04-2016, 10:58 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:56 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  No
You made the claim here.
Prove it here. Now.

Q.E.D.

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10-04-2016, 10:58 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:51 AM)Matheism Wrote:  The above "Truth has no religion", on its own, is not a conclusion.

I did, refer here....

And this is EXACTLY what I referred to in two previous posts.

So... once more from the top....

(09-04-2016 12:39 PM)Matheism Wrote:  You can read the title (conclusion) and my first post (premises)...

Premise 1: He made all gods one god. (38.5)

Premise 2: Oh People of the Book (Jews, Christians and Muslims etc) ! You are not at all rightly guided unless you put into practice the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord (al-Quran) (5.68) [”...unless you put into practice (other religions.. all religions etc) ...” (5.68)]

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Conclusion: God (truth, real self) has no religion.

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God =

لا إله إلا الله

No Slavery (لا إله) : False Self (because people are not "things")

Only Allah (إلا الله) : Truth.. one and absolute truth, your Real Self.

So, to answer the above.

Premise one is meaningless and pointless. It defines nothing. It is within itself circularly referential.

The sentence does not mean anything in English.

Everything following on? Is therefore also meaningless.... since the very first premise means nothing coherent in English.

Are we reaching an understanding? Consider

Would you, perhaps, like more help with your English skills?
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10-04-2016, 10:59 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:52 AM)Matheism Wrote:  God is real self, this is my argument.

And this is a nonsensical statement. That is our point.

Leaving aside, for now, the fact that you have utterly failed to provide a coherent definition for "god" or "real self", stating that the two are equivalent is simply false. You are outright ignoring the common meaning of one to try and equate it with the other, which renders them both worthless.

It's silly semantic games, nothing more. And no one here is impressed.

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10-04-2016, 11:00 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:56 AM)Matheism Wrote:  
(10-04-2016 10:54 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  That's a claim, not an argument.
Are you 12 years old ? (You write like one).

Yes it is a claim... so what defines you? Tell me...

You didn't answer the QUESTION.
Stop trying to deflect.
You made a CLAIM.
You said a claim was an argument.
You are an ignorant fool who doesn't know the difference.
You cannot support your CLAIM with any rational argument.
You are a fraud and a fake.

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10-04-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:58 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Are we reaching an understanding? Consider

"Truth has no religion" is a declarative statement, capable of being True or False. Thus it is an argument.
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10-04-2016, 11:03 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 10:59 AM)Unbeliever Wrote:  And this is a nonsensical statement. That is our point.

What defines you?

Tell me...
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10-04-2016, 11:05 AM
RE: God (truth, real self) has no religion
(10-04-2016 11:02 AM)Matheism Wrote:  
(10-04-2016 10:58 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Are we reaching an understanding? Consider

"Truth has no religion" is a declarative statement, capable of being True or False. Thus it is an argument.

No. Fool.
You must SAY WHY and PROVE (with evidence) WHY one or the other is true.
THAT would be an argument. You have made NOT ONE, yet.

I take it back.
You are 7 years old, right ?

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