God was not in Sandy Hook
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08-01-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: God was not in Sandy Hook
(08-01-2013 12:42 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(08-01-2013 07:32 AM)lucyg77 Wrote:  It's interesting that, regarding Sandy Hook and other tragedies, religious people throw out the "free will" card and the "Gods plan" card. These 2 things cancel each other out. If God has a plan, then that throws "free will" out the window. The reverse is equally as ridiculous. If we have "free will", then it throws "Gods plan" out the window. Having both makes absolutely no sense.
Judge Judy says this so eloquently on her show from time to time: "IF IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE, IT ISN'T TRUE". This philosophy goes also for the bible, creationism, and all other bits of fantasy.

"Man created God in his own image"
Yep.

Freewill and an omniscient/omnipotent God cannot coexist.
If omniscience is limited to the past and present - the future is unknowable - then they can coexist.

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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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08-01-2013, 03:08 PM
RE: God was not in Sandy Hook
(08-01-2013 01:31 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(08-01-2013 12:42 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yep.

Freewill and an omniscient/omnipotent God cannot coexist.
If omniscience is limited to the past and present - the future is unknowable - then they can coexist.
Not with the coexistence of omnipotence.

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