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04-03-2014, 01:33 AM (This post was last modified: 04-03-2014 01:37 AM by donotwant.)
Gods license to kill
http://carm.org/questions/you-shall-not-...-god-kills

This is funny.
Quote:Murder is the unlawful taking of life. Killing is the lawful taking of life. God has said, "You shall not murder," not "You shall not kill." After all, God says killing in self defense is justifiable. Exodus 22:2, "If the thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there will be no bloodguiltiness on his account." If mere killing of any kind was the issue, then why would God saying killing in self defense is permissible? He wouldn't. This is another reason that modern translations say, "You shall not murder."
As you can see, different words are used for "murder" and "kill." The Greek is more specific, and since the Greek New Testament quotes the Hebrew Old Testament we can see that Exodus 20:13 is best translated as "You shall not murder."

One final comment: since all people have sinned against God (Rom. 3:23) all people are under the judgment of God. The wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23), so when God executes someone it is not murder, it is killing because it is a lawful taking of life. Remember, all people have sinned. Sin is the breaking of God's law. Therefore, God's execution is lawful.

So basically killing against the law is bad. Killing by the law is lawful.
All people sinned against god so if god decides to kill anyone is lawful.
He can kill the whole planet and it will still be lawful.
Maybe this is why god made so many sins so that he can kill whoever he wants? Laughat
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04-03-2014, 01:56 AM
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(04-03-2014 01:33 AM)donotwant Wrote:  http://carm.org/questions/you-shall-not-...-god-kills

This is funny.
Quote:Murder is the unlawful taking of life. Killing is the lawful taking of life. God has said, "You shall not murder," not "You shall not kill." After all, God says killing in self defense is justifiable. Exodus 22:2, "If the thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there will be no bloodguiltiness on his account." If mere killing of any kind was the issue, then why would God saying killing in self defense is permissible? He wouldn't. This is another reason that modern translations say, "You shall not murder."
As you can see, different words are used for "murder" and "kill." The Greek is more specific, and since the Greek New Testament quotes the Hebrew Old Testament we can see that Exodus 20:13 is best translated as "You shall not murder."

One final comment: since all people have sinned against God (Rom. 3:23) all people are under the judgment of God. The wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23), so when God executes someone it is not murder, it is killing because it is a lawful taking of life. Remember, all people have sinned. Sin is the breaking of God's law. Therefore, God's execution is lawful.

So basically killing against the law is bad. Killing by the law is lawful.
All people sinned against god so if god decides to kill anyone is lawful.
He can kill the whole planet and it will still be lawful.
Maybe this is why god made so many sins so that he can kill whoever he wants? Laughat

Which would make god a fucked in the head sadist, and Lawful Evil if we were to categorize him according to the D&D alignment system. Wink

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04-03-2014, 03:45 AM
RE: Gods license to kill
(04-03-2014 01:56 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 01:33 AM)donotwant Wrote:  http://carm.org/questions/you-shall-not-...-god-kills

This is funny.

So basically killing against the law is bad. Killing by the law is lawful.
All people sinned against god so if god decides to kill anyone is lawful.
He can kill the whole planet and it will still be lawful.
Maybe this is why god made so many sins so that he can kill whoever he wants? Laughat

Which would make god a fucked in the head sadist, and Lawful Evil if we were to categorize him according to the D&D alignment system. Wink

CN, he is insane my man and you can never tell what is going to piss him off.

(31-07-2014 04:37 PM)Luminon Wrote:  America is full of guns, but they're useless, because nobody has the courage to shoot an IRS agent in self-defense
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04-03-2014, 03:53 AM
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(04-03-2014 03:45 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 01:56 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Which would make god a fucked in the head sadist, and Lawful Evil if we were to categorize him according to the D&D alignment system. Wink

CN, he is insane my man and you can never tell what is going to piss him off.

I'll split the difference and go NE on this one, but no further. CN is way to much fun to be soiled by Yahweh anyways.

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04-03-2014, 03:56 AM
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(04-03-2014 03:53 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 03:45 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  CN, he is insane my man and you can never tell what is going to piss him off.

I'll split the difference and go NE on this one, but no further. CN is way to much fun to be soiled by Yahweh anyways.

I always loved playing CN. But it would explain the multiple personality disorder he suffers from in the NT.

(31-07-2014 04:37 PM)Luminon Wrote:  America is full of guns, but they're useless, because nobody has the courage to shoot an IRS agent in self-defense
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04-03-2014, 04:00 AM
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(04-03-2014 03:56 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 03:53 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  I'll split the difference and go NE on this one, but no further. CN is way to much fun to be soiled by Yahweh anyways.

I always loved playing CN. But it would explain the multiple personality disorder he suffers from in the NT.


Not really, if he has Dissociative Identity Disorder, then each one would just have it's own alignment. Consider

Damn it, we need a DM to make a call here.

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04-03-2014, 04:01 AM
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(04-03-2014 04:00 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 03:56 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  I always loved playing CN. But it would explain the multiple personality disorder he suffers from in the NT.


Not really, if he has Dissociative Identity Disorder, then each one would just have it's own alignment. Consider

Damn it, we need a DM to make a call here.

Well even the face he puts on to talk to people in the nice tone goes nuts and flips a few tables so...

(31-07-2014 04:37 PM)Luminon Wrote:  America is full of guns, but they're useless, because nobody has the courage to shoot an IRS agent in self-defense
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04-03-2014, 04:04 AM
RE: Gods license to kill
"Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man ... living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you." - George Carlin.

I like to think of it as tough love. Drinking Beverage

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04-03-2014, 04:05 AM
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http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...ons--23560

Might as well drop this here. Drinking Beverage

(31-07-2014 04:37 PM)Luminon Wrote:  America is full of guns, but they're useless, because nobody has the courage to shoot an IRS agent in self-defense
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04-03-2014, 07:53 AM
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(04-03-2014 01:33 AM)donotwant Wrote:  So basically killing against the law is bad. Killing by the law is lawful.
All people sinned against god so if god decides to kill anyone is lawful.
He can kill the whole planet and it will still be lawful.
Maybe this is why god made so many sins so that he can kill whoever he wants? Laughat

Eh, who can trust him?

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