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06-12-2016, 05:08 PM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
(06-12-2016 02:39 PM)Astreja Wrote:  Personally, I concentrate on these three things -- all fatal flaws, IMO:

*The sheer, ghastly immorality of the "sacrifice" of Jesus, and having to accept it to avoid eternal punishment.

The last bit is bullshit. It diminishes the sacrifice to the point of insignificance and arrogance. Universal reconciliation on the other hand ...

(06-12-2016 02:39 PM)Astreja Wrote:  *The emphasis on faith rather than works.

That's just foolish.

"Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ... But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?"

(06-12-2016 02:39 PM)Astreja Wrote:  *The total silence of contemporaneous historians regarding Jesus, with the earliest stories coming via hearsay decades after he supposedly died.[/list]

He used to go by Hammurabi back in the day. Big Grin

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06-12-2016, 05:18 PM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
My best argument against Christianity would be Christians & their bible.

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06-12-2016, 05:23 PM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
I rely on history - which the gospels are not.

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07-12-2016, 09:31 PM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
Well what do you call evil, and faith without works is dead. Also, those pyramids are called the pillars of enoch. God was cool with the first egyptian god and made a indestructable pyramid.
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07-12-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
^^^ argument against Christianity.
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07-12-2016, 10:22 PM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
(06-12-2016 02:39 PM)Astreja Wrote:  He used to go by Hammurabi back in the day. Big Grin

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19-12-2016, 07:40 AM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
Hold the Christians feet to the Christian fire.

Sell all you have and give to the poor.
God commands us to be communists, Acts 2 and 4.
Matthew 6, pray in private, in you closet, not openly.

What!? You Christians don't follow the commands of God and Jesus Christ!?
Then obviously you aren't really Christians so why should I listen to you?

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John 14
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Luke 12:33
33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags
which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not,
where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

Mark 10:17-21
17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on
his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do
to inherit eternal life?”
18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is
good—except God alone. 19You know the commandments: ‘You shall
not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal,
you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor
your father and mother.’d ”
20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a
boy.”
21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he
said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and
you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

Matthew 19:20-21
19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I
kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and
sell
that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have
treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Matthew 28-29
28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all
things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who
have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the
twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And everyone who has left houses or
brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or
fields for the sake of My name will receive a hundredfold and
will inherit eternal life.

Luke 12:32-34
32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure
to give you the kingdom.
33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags
which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not,
where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Luke 14:33
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all
that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Luke 18:18-23
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what
shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is
good, save one, that is, God.
20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not
kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father
and thy mother.
21 And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet
lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute
unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come,
follow me.
23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was
very rich.

Matthew 6:19-25
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth
and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and
steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither
moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break
through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be
single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of
darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness,
how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the
one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and
despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what
ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body,
what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the
body than raiment?

Mark 10:25
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Matthew 19:24
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a
camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to
enter into the kingdom of God.

Luke 18
18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a
needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of
God.

Matthew 6:31-34
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or,
What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seekSmile for your
heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;
and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow
shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the
day is the evil thereof.

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19-12-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
Show us where all the promised big miracles are!

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Mark 11:22-24

22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this
mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and
shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those
things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have
whatsoever he saith.
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when
ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.


Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name
shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly
thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick,
and they shall recover.

John 14:12-14
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the
works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these
shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that
the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

James 5:14-16
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the
church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in
the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord
shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be
forgiven him.

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19-12-2016, 08:00 AM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
God commands Christians to be communists. Why don't you Christians follow the commands of God?

Acts 4:31-3
31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

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It's easy to argle bargle endlessly about Christianity, another thing to actually follow the commands of Jesus and God in that Christian book, the New Testament. Put up or shut up.

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19-12-2016, 08:08 AM
RE: Good arguments against Christianity?
OP your link is bullshit. If that's the best you can argue against Christianity then you're kinda... nowhere. "seethetruth.web.com" FFS Facepalm Aren't you embarrassed?

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