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06-11-2012, 11:23 AM
RE: Grammar
(06-11-2012 10:50 AM)Vera Wrote:  Same goes for dreamt, spelt, burnt, etc. Actually, once an American friend accused me of not being able to spell the past form of spelt... and he himself didn't know the difference between 'then' and 'than', and would always say "It's suppose to..." No

I love the irregular forms, don't know why, but those are the ones that come naturally to me.

Vera: If you don't mind my asking . . .

I'm in awe of people like yourself who have achieved native competence in a language that's not their first. How'd you get so good in English? Were you raised bilingually? Did you speak English as a kid? Spend time in English-speaking countries? Read a library-full of books? Watch way too many English-language movies? Just curious . . . Smile

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06-11-2012, 11:43 AM
RE: Grammar
(06-11-2012 11:23 AM)cufflink Wrote:  Vera: If you don't mind my asking . . .



I'm in awe of people like yourself who have achieved native competence in a language that's not their first. How'd you get so good in English? Were you raised bilingually? Did you speak English as a kid? Spend time in English-speaking countries? Read a library-full of books? Watch way too many English-language movies? Just curious . . . Smile




Of course I don't mind (that's about the only thing I'm sort of good at... languages I meanWink).


The last two - certainly. The others - not really (actually, I've never been to an English-speaking country). Started learning it in high-school (it was a specialised sort of school, where the first year we studied only English and afterwards we'd take most subjects in English... which isn't to say that everybody who graduated, was fluent... actually, not many people were) and then studied something like philology at uni (with literature and other stuff thrown in for good measure). Again - not everyone who graduated was fluent, I just went on to work with English, and this, coupled with the heaps of book I've read and movies (or TV series) I've seen, has brought me to this day, where I think mostly in English and the only thing I do in my own language is talk to the people around me and translate my books into. Yes

It's kinda funny (at least to me, as I've always been interested in languages), that I got the chance to study another language in a different way - by going to the country where it's spoken. Which is how I ended up with an (more or less) impeccable Portuguese accentWink

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06-11-2012, 11:58 AM
RE: Grammar
(06-11-2012 11:43 AM)Vera Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 11:23 AM)cufflink Wrote:  Vera: If you don't mind my asking . . .



I'm in awe of people like yourself who have achieved native competence in a language that's not their first. How'd you get so good in English? Were you raised bilingually? Did you speak English as a kid? Spend time in English-speaking countries? Read a library-full of books? Watch way too many English-language movies? Just curious . . . Smile




Of course I don't mind (that's about the only thing I'm sort of good at... languages I meanWink).


The last two - certainly. The others - not really (actually, I've never been to an English-speaking country). Started learning it in high-school (it was a specialised sort of school, where the first year we studied only English and afterwards we'd take most subjects in English... which isn't to say that everybody who graduated, was fluent... actually, not many people were) and then studied something like philology at uni (with literature and other stuff thrown in for good measure). Again - not everyone who graduated was fluent, I just went on to work with English, and this, coupled with the heaps of book I've read and movies (or TV series) I've seen, has brought me to this day, where I think mostly in English and the only thing I do in my own language is talk to the people around me and translate my books into. Yes

It's kinda funny (at least to me, as I've always been interested in languages), that I got the chance to study another language in a different way - by going to the country where it's spoken. Which is how I ended up with an (more or less) impeccable Portuguese accentWink

So you're actually trilingual! Bowing прекрасен, maravilhoso, wonderful. (Courtesy of Google Translate. Wink )

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06-11-2012, 12:04 PM
RE: Grammar
(06-11-2012 11:58 AM)cufflink Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 11:43 AM)Vera Wrote:  Of course I don't mind (that's about the only thing I'm sort of good at... languages I meanWink).





The last two - certainly. The others - not really (actually, I've never been to an English-speaking country). Started learning it in high-school (it was a specialised sort of school, where the first year we studied only English and afterwards we'd take most subjects in English... which isn't to say that everybody who graduated, was fluent... actually, not many people were) and then studied something like philology at uni (with literature and other stuff thrown in for good measure). Again - not everyone who graduated was fluent, I just went on to work with English, and this, coupled with the heaps of book I've read and movies (or TV series) I've seen, has brought me to this day, where I think mostly in English and the only thing I do in my own language is talk to the people around me and translate my books into. Yes



It's kinda funny (at least to me, as I've always been interested in languages), that I got the chance to study another language in a different way - by going to the country where it's spoken. Which is how I ended up with an (more or less) impeccable Portuguese accentWink



So you're actually trilingual! Bowing прекрасен, maravilhoso, wonderful. (Courtesy of Google Translate. Wink )
Hehe! If those are adverbs, the Bulgarian one should be прекрасно Smile But very good indeed.

Actually, I speak some Russian, too, and understand several other languages. But I'm only really fluent in English and Bulgarian Sad Though in Rio my Portuguese would get nearly fluent after a couple of caipirinhas Cool

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06-11-2012, 12:07 PM
RE: Grammar
All that seems so trivial if you don't know how to speak Klingon. Drinking Beverage

It was just a fucking apple man, we're sorry okay? Please stop the madness Laugh out load
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06-11-2012, 12:11 PM
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(06-11-2012 12:07 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  All that seems so trivial if you don't know how to speak Klingon. Drinking Beverage





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06-11-2012, 12:34 PM
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(06-11-2012 12:07 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  All that seems so trivial if you don't know how to speak Klingon. Drinking Beverage

Klingon is so 20th century. Drinking Beverage

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06-11-2012, 04:26 PM
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(06-11-2012 12:34 PM)cufflink Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 12:07 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  All that seems so trivial if you don't know how to speak Klingon. Drinking Beverage

Klingon is so 20th century. Drinking Beverage

Well I didn't want to say Na'vi, but is that current enough for ya?

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06-11-2012, 04:36 PM
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(06-11-2012 11:43 AM)Vera Wrote:  Started learning it in high-school (it was a specialised sort of school, where the first year we studied only English and afterwards we'd take most subjects in English... which isn't to say that everybody who graduated, was fluent... actually, not many people were) and then studied something like philology at uni (with literature and other stuff thrown in for good measure). Again - not everyone who graduated was fluent, I just went on to work with English, and this, coupled with the heaps of book I've read and movies (or TV series) I've seen, has brought me to this day, where I think mostly in English and the only thing I do in my own language is talk to the people around me and translate my books into. Yes

It's kinda funny (at least to me, as I've always been interested in languages), that I got the chance to study another language in a different way - by going to the country where it's spoken. Which is how I ended up with an (more or less) impeccable Portuguese accentWink

Very impressive.

And it also saddens me to think about all the native English speakers I'm surrounded by who can't get basic spelling or grammar correct. High school graduates who can't spell better than a typical 3rd grader and can't tell an adjective from an adverb and have never heard of a predicate. You put them all to shame. By far.

(I would have said "by whom I'm surrounded" but didn't want to seem pretentious).

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06-11-2012, 04:48 PM
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(06-11-2012 04:26 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 12:34 PM)cufflink Wrote:  Klingon is so 20th century. Drinking Beverage

Well I didn't want to say Na'vi, but is that current enough for ya?

Yup. Big Grin Although the new kid on the block is Dothraki.

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