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22-06-2013, 05:30 AM
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(21-06-2013 06:31 PM)AyameTan Wrote:  but a perfectly just god would give everyone the same opportunities to obtain salvation, no?

What's that got to do with life? BTW, please define "perfectly just"? This could mean "Kill them all and let Jesus sort them out....." You have no real evidence for this so-called "perfectly just" god either.

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22-06-2013, 05:37 AM (This post was last modified: 22-06-2013 08:23 AM by Stephen Charchuk.)
Re: RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
(22-06-2013 05:15 AM)AyameTan Wrote:  Calvinism was devised by a sociopath in an attempt to evade personal responsibility in the material world for one's own misdeeds.

You just expressed one of the reasons why religion was made up and by what sort of person. ie. Islam. Made up by Mohammed, an illiterate, pedopfile warlord who used it to justify killing his enemies..... It was kind of obvious since Islam does mean submission, or surrender and not peace.

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22-06-2013, 07:55 AM
RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
Fallacies, Oh, like the ones scientists create everyday!
Here's one from 2005. A German anthropologist is forced to resign due to fraud.

"Yesterday his university in Frankfurt announced the professor had been forced to retire because of numerous "falsehoods and manipulations". According to experts, his deceptions may mean an entire tranche of the history of man's development will have to be rewritten."

Source:http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/feb/19/science.science news
Christian fallacies, how bout atheist fallacies... You are all hypocrites.
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22-06-2013, 08:00 AM
RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
(22-06-2013 07:55 AM)theword Wrote:  You are all hypocrites.

You're irrelevant Big Grin
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22-06-2013, 08:14 AM (This post was last modified: 22-06-2013 08:38 AM by Stephen Charchuk.)
Re: RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
(22-06-2013 08:00 AM)morondog Wrote:  You're irrelevant Big Grin

Exactly. He probably doesn't even know what the term means, the poor dumb animal. Maybe his "collective" consciousness will tell him if he prays .... I mean meditates hard enough to it?

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22-06-2013, 09:44 AM
RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
(22-06-2013 07:55 AM)theword Wrote:  Fallacies, Oh, like the ones scientists create everyday!
Here's one from 2005. A German anthropologist is forced to resign due to fraud.

"Yesterday his university in Frankfurt announced the professor had been forced to retire because of numerous "falsehoods and manipulations". According to experts, his deceptions may mean an entire tranche of the history of man's development will have to be rewritten."

Source:http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/feb/19/science.science news
Christian fallacies, how bout atheist fallacies... You are all hypocrites.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/f...ciencenews

There is the correct url and the actual event he is talking about again proves why science>faith falsehoods are exposed frauds are not tolerated and when we find something like this we expose it and get closer to the truth. When religion can come out and do the same (change based on new information) it will begin to have some credibility, however we all know that only happens when they are forced to do so due to overwhelming evidence (Heliocentrism for example)

My question to mr theword is if you hate science and atheists so much what in the fuck are you doing playing on a computer on the internet didn't anyone ever tell you it was invented by a gay atheist?

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22-06-2013, 11:01 AM
RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
thelie still doesn't get the concept of peer review since religion doesn't have it. All religious claims are equal.

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22-06-2013, 04:30 PM
RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
(22-06-2013 05:30 AM)Stephen Charchuk Wrote:  What's that got to do with life? BTW, please define "perfectly just"? This could mean "Kill them all and let Jesus sort them out....." You have no real evidence for this so-called "perfectly just" god either.

Justice has to do with proportionality and fairness. to put it another way, a perfectly just god would punish people depending on the crimes they committed. So eternal punishment or reward would be out of consideration from the get-go.



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22-06-2013, 05:34 PM
RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
(22-06-2013 07:55 AM)theword Wrote:  Fallacies, Oh, like the ones scientists create everyday!

And if you have chest pain, or have a heart attack, you will just pray, right ? Not call 911 right. If you are in a car accident you will not accept an ambulance right ?
You will never go to a doctor, never take an antibiotic, never go to a hospital, never use DNA to prove you are innocent, never eat any foods with preservatives, never drink Pasteurized milk, never use electricity, never have surgery, never take an aspirin, never use eye-glasses, never use birth control, never use bug spray, never drive a car, never fly in an airplane. Sure you won't.

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22-06-2013, 05:40 PM (This post was last modified: 22-06-2013 06:06 PM by Stephen Charchuk.)
Re: RE: Great Christian Fallacies.
(22-06-2013 04:30 PM)AyameTan Wrote:  Justice has to do with proportionality and fairness. to put it another way, a perfectly just god would punish people depending on the crimes they committed. So eternal punishment or reward would be out of consideration from the get-go.

Justice has nothing to do with fairness. It has to do with being impartial. I think that in the US you are only guaranteeed an open and speedy trial, and fair selection of a jury of your peers. Remember, justice is suppose to be blind.

An all-knowing god has no need for justice, fair or otherwise. A verdict is set from birth, not a chance to defend one's self. Hardly 'fair"...... or justice.

Now, do you want to discuss how many angels can fit on the tip of a needle?

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