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Yesterday, 08:37 PM
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Today, 03:34 AM
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"God is dead." (Nietzsche)

"Nietzsche is dead." (God)

"Nietzsche and God are both dead." (History) Consider
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Today, 03:47 AM
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"Atheism or similar charges was not unusual among intellectuals, nor condemned by the masses. The prize-winning plays of Aristophanes were not merely atheist, but made fun of the gods and their prophets and oracles." (Parmenides, The Trial of Socrates) Consider
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Today, 04:38 AM
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(Today 03:47 AM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  "Atheism or similar charges was not unusual among intellectuals, nor condemned by the masses. The prize-winning plays of Aristophanes were not merely atheist, but made fun of the gods and their prophets and oracles." (Parmenides, The Trial of Socrates) Consider

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The quote isn't from Parmenides, who didn't witness the trial of Socrates and didn't write about it.

It's a quote from Benjamin Jowett (1817 - 1893), a theologian best remembered for his translations of Plato. It appears in his introduction to Plato's Phaedo.

Parmenides himself was not an atheist, as far as we can tell. Only fragments of his work remain, but they purport to be an account of revelations he received from a goddess, perhaps Persephone. "Atheist," in Jowett's sentence, refers to a lack of belief in the Greek gods of myth. It's clear from Plato's Symposium that the guests feel free to make up comic monologues about the traditional gods -- the extent to which they take them seriously is a complicated issue. Many people who heard Socrates, however, including Plato, believed in a God that is more like the Christian God of Augustine and Aquinas. So "atheist" here doesn't necessarily equate to the beliefs of the people on this forum.
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Today, 05:08 AM
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(Today 04:38 AM)Belaqua Wrote:  
(Today 03:47 AM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  "Atheism or similar charges was not unusual among intellectuals, nor condemned by the masses. The prize-winning plays of Aristophanes were not merely atheist, but made fun of the gods and their prophets and oracles." (Parmenides, The Trial of Socrates) Consider

Can you edit this post?

The quote isn't from Parmenides, who didn't witness the trial of Socrates and didn't write about it.

It's a quote from Benjamin Jowett (1817 - 1893), a theologian best remembered for his translations of Plato. It appears in his introduction to Plato's Phaedo.

Parmenides himself was not an atheist, as far as we can tell. Only fragments of his work remain, but they purport to be an account of revelations he received from a goddess, perhaps Persephone. "Atheist," in Jowett's sentence, refers to a lack of belief in the Greek gods of myth. It's clear from Plato's Symposium that the guests feel free to make up comic monologues about the traditional gods -- the extent to which they take them seriously is a complicated issue. Many people who heard Socrates, however, including Plato, believed in a God that is more like the Christian God of Augustine and Aquinas. So "atheist" here doesn't necessarily equate to the beliefs of the people on this forum.

> My purpose was not to claim or imply that Parmenides was an atheist, but only to encourage further reading. The quote was taken from Celebrity Atheist List:
http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Category:Atheist
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