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01-02-2015, 10:42 AM
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I'm basically agnostic. I don't think it matters whether there is or isn't a god. There's no objective evidence either way so I don't dwell on it. But if I had to make a choice to win a million bucks, I would say no, there isn't a god.

I'm a scientist - chemistry, physics with a special interest in quantum theory and quantum computers.

A few years ago I found out that one of my nieces became a Creationist along with her husband and 8 children. She's a college graduate, albeit from a "bible" college in Los Angeles. As a scientist who has worked at the bench my whole life, I was totally confounded as to how a reasonably intelligent person could buy in to this complete corruption of science. I rapidly came to the conclusion that Creationism is not a religion. It's a cult. The head guru, Ken Ham, is an outright fraud, selling junk bonds to the public which eventually crash and burn. Since then, I argue with Creationists every chance I get, citing hard science that refutes their corrupted view of science. I've shut down more than a few threads started by Creationists on other forums, happy to sayBig Grin

Anyway, always looking for an intelligent group to discuss various topics. Glad to be here.

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01-02-2015, 10:52 AM
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On the rare occasions that a creationist turns up here, a debunking queue quickly forms. It'll be good to see you in action.

Welcome aboard.

You said, "became" ... did you manage to unbecame your niece, niecelets and niecelings?

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01-02-2015, 10:54 AM
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Greetings and welcome.

Your participation is appreciated.

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01-02-2015, 11:04 AM
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(01-02-2015 10:52 AM)DLJ Wrote:  On the rare occasions that a creationist turns up here, a debunking queue quickly forms. It'll be good to see you in action.

Welcome aboard.

You said, "became" ... did you manage to unbecame your niece, niecelets and niecelings?

Unfortunately, no. However, I did convince her that the children needed an appropriate science education if they ever hoped to go to college - SAT and all of that. She actually agreed. She home schools and uses Khan Academy for math and science, as well as some good texts. So I can't fault her on that. She says she wants the children to make up their own minds when they're adults. And I accept that - as long as their heads are not filled with crap before they get there! But she and her husband are embedded in Creationism complete with Earth 6000 years old, dinosaurs living with humans, and all the rest of the junk science they believe in.

Shocking

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01-02-2015, 11:30 AM
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(01-02-2015 10:42 AM)Phantom Wrote:  I'm basically agnostic. I don't think it matters whether there is or isn't a god. There's no objective evidence either way so I don't dwell on it. But if I had to make a choice to win a million bucks, I would say no, there isn't a god.

I'm a scientist - chemistry, physics with a special interest in quantum theory and quantum computers.

A few years ago I found out that one of my nieces became a Creationist along with her husband and 8 children. She's a college graduate, albeit from a "bible" college in Los Angeles. As a scientist who has worked at the bench my whole life, I was totally confounded as to how a reasonably intelligent person could buy in to this complete corruption of science. I rapidly came to the conclusion that Creationism is not a religion. It's a cult. The head guru, Ken Ham, is an outright fraud, selling junk bonds to the public which eventually crash and burn. Since then, I argue with Creationists every chance I get, citing hard science that refutes their corrupted view of science. I've shut down more than a few threads started by Creationists on other forums, happy to sayBig Grin

Anyway, always looking for an intelligent group to discuss various topics. Glad to be here.

Hi there, pleased to meet you. It is always good to see subject matter specialists join the debate, so will be looking forward to hearing your voice here.

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01-02-2015, 12:33 PM
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(01-02-2015 11:04 AM)Phantom Wrote:  
(01-02-2015 10:52 AM)DLJ Wrote:  On the rare occasions that a creationist turns up here, a debunking queue quickly forms. It'll be good to see you in action.

Welcome aboard.

You said, "became" ... did you manage to unbecame your niece, niecelets and niecelings?

Unfortunately, no. However, I did convince her that the children needed an appropriate science education if they ever hoped to go to college - SAT and all of that. She actually agreed. She home schools and uses Khan Academy for math and science, as well as some good texts. So I can't fault her on that. She says she wants the children to make up their own minds when they're adults. And I accept that - as long as their heads are not filled with crap before they get there! But she and her husband are embedded in Creationism complete with Earth 6000 years old, dinosaurs living with humans, and all the rest of the junk science they believe in.

Shocking

I liked creationists better when they actively denied dinosaurs existed.

Welcome to our community.

I'm sure we'll be getting another yec...lent is around the corner. They all seem to come out between lent and Easter to share, ahem, the good news and shit.


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And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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01-02-2015, 12:36 PM
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Welcome aboard. Smile

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01-02-2015, 02:46 PM
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Welcome!
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05-02-2015, 01:35 PM
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Welcome.
When people tell me that what does it matter if people believe in religion I ask them if they vote? When you vote you rely on your religious beliefs to make decisions and those decisions affect outcomes that affect everybody. Theist as well as atheist. That's not right.
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05-02-2015, 01:57 PM
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Hello! Big Grin
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