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09-07-2013, 12:24 PM
RE: Gun Control
(09-07-2013 12:21 PM)Julius Wrote:  
(09-07-2013 12:16 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I'm also not sure how you draw the correlation between having a culture that glorifies violence and one that practices it because of that. I'm also not sure I would say we have a culture that glorifies violence.

For instance, if you look at countries where violent video games are allowed, there has been a correlation with decreased violence overall. It seems that having an outlet that is not reality, means people can indulge in their natural instincts without giving harm to other people.

This would also work the same for romance novels and mystery/murder theater, etc.

Hollywood and TV. It's where the young and impressionable learn how the world should work....or how they figure people should think it should work.

The Jersey Shore has done much more damage than Pulp Fiction.

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09-07-2013, 12:31 PM
RE: Gun Control
(09-07-2013 12:24 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(09-07-2013 12:21 PM)Julius Wrote:  Hollywood and TV. It's where the young and impressionable learn how the world should work....or how they figure people should think it should work.

The Jersey Shore has done much more damage than Pulp Fiction.

Ah yes...The Jersey Shore: the "Ascendency of the Arsehole".

Ya' know, I'd like to see those kids spend a couple of weeks bar-hopping in East LA - or some other predominantly Mexican community where the Arsehole is not tolerated.

BTW, the Mexican word for "Arsehole" is pronounced "Corpse".
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10-07-2013, 02:34 PM (This post was last modified: 10-07-2013 02:45 PM by TheBeardedDude.)
RE: Gun Control
(09-07-2013 09:07 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  It's also worth noting that we are 3 days shy of this post
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid322990
being a month old without an actual reply, let alone the subsequent posts (including the ones about assuming that some mysterious admin was taking sides). Drinking Beverage

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10-07-2013, 11:36 PM
RE: Gun Control
Being in a state with open-carry , this is my view.

Twenty good people in a mall with guns, two potential mass murderers ...think of the outcome. Obviously they could stop the two others.

Guns are good protection and needed.

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11-07-2013, 03:50 AM
RE: Gun Control
(10-07-2013 11:36 PM)WeasleyFromTheShire Wrote:  Being in a state with open-carry , this is my view.

Twenty good people in a mall with guns, two potential mass murderers ...think of the outcome. Obviously they could stop the two others.

Guns are good protection and needed.

You should really read previous posts before you come to that conclusion. Statistics demonstrate why this is a slippery slope.

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11-07-2013, 08:08 AM
RE: Gun Control
(10-07-2013 11:36 PM)WeasleyFromTheShire Wrote:  Being in a state with open-carry , this is my view.

Twenty good people in a mall with guns, two potential mass murderers ...think of the outcome. Obviously they could stop the two others.

Guns are good protection and needed.

Here is what I think when this scenario is presented to me. What if these mass murderers had never been able to get these weapons in the first place?

If these weapons are guns, then it is something that is potentially preventable.

If these weapons are bombs, then killing them would be after the fact and completely useless.


I just don't hear a compelling argument for not amending gun laws in anything you said.

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11-07-2013, 12:35 PM
RE: Gun Control
(10-07-2013 11:36 PM)WeasleyFromTheShire Wrote:  Being in a state with open-carry , this is my view.

Twenty good people in a mall with guns, two potential mass murderers ...think of the outcome. Obviously they could stop the two others.

Guns are good protection and needed.

The odds that I'll get killed by a Mass Murderer with a gun are less than being struck by lightening. I mean, by that logic shouldn't I also consider carrying a lightening rod, too?

However, there are some situations where people need guns, and that's when it's really good to have one. Mostly, I try to stay out of situations where I might need a gun - but that's not all the time. So...sometimes I carry.

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11-07-2013, 01:26 PM
RE: Gun Control
(10-07-2013 02:34 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(09-07-2013 09:07 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  It's also worth noting that we are 3 days shy of this post
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid322990
being a month old without an actual reply, let alone the subsequent posts (including the ones about assuming that some mysterious admin was taking sides). Drinking Beverage

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1 day...

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11-07-2013, 10:54 PM
RE: Gun Control
(11-07-2013 03:50 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(10-07-2013 11:36 PM)WeasleyFromTheShire Wrote:  Being in a state with open-carry , this is my view.

Twenty good people in a mall with guns, two potential mass murderers ...think of the outcome. Obviously they could stop the two others.

Guns are good protection and needed.

You should really read previous posts before you come to that conclusion. Statistics demonstrate why this is a slippery slope.

I see the negative effects. There has to be restrictions. Like Biden said , " Just get a shotgun" .

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12-07-2013, 06:36 AM
RE: Gun Control
(11-07-2013 10:54 PM)WeasleyFromTheShire Wrote:  
(11-07-2013 03:50 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  You should really read previous posts before you come to that conclusion. Statistics demonstrate why this is a slippery slope.

I see the negative effects. There has to be restrictions. Like Biden said , " Just get a shotgun" .

No, I mean that the individual who is well-intentioned with the firearm is more likely to harm innocent civilians and get himself killed than he is actually shooting the assailants.

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