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21-09-2014, 05:24 PM
RE: Guns
(21-09-2014 05:23 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(21-09-2014 05:14 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  My stance on firearm ownership is that everyone should be required to do three things.

1. Pass a lie detector test to determine reasons for gun ownership and purchase.
2. Pass a gang Affiliation Background check.
3. Pass a Psycho Evaluation.

If someone can pass all three, than go right ahead and own a gun of your choice.

Any gun that is not a firearm can not be used out side of ones property.

What is a "gun that is not a firearm"?

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21-09-2014, 05:26 PM
RE: Guns
(21-09-2014 05:24 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(21-09-2014 05:23 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Any gun that is not a firearm can not be used out side of ones property.

What is a "gun that is not a firearm"?

Any gun that is not a pistol basically.

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21-09-2014, 05:26 PM
RE: Guns
(21-09-2014 05:15 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(21-09-2014 05:14 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  My stance on firearm ownership is that everyone should be required to do three things.

1. Pass a lie detector test to determine reasons for gun ownership and purchase.
2. Pass a gang Affiliation Background check.
3. Pass a Psycho Evaluation.

If someone can pass all three, than go right ahead and own a gun of your choice.

Forget #1. Polygraphs are voodoo, not science. Drinking Beverage

Voodoo? You sure you know how they actually work?

from google.
A polygraph (popularly referred to as a lie detector) measures and records several physiological indices such as blood pressure, pulse, respiration, and skin conductivity while the subject is asked and answers a series of questions.

Most people when they lie, their blood pressure and pulse and other stuff is effected. It is a normal part of the stress that occurs when someone lies about something.


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21-09-2014, 05:27 PM
RE: Guns
(21-09-2014 05:26 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(21-09-2014 05:24 PM)Chas Wrote:  What is a "gun that is not a firearm"?

Any gun that is not a pistol basically.

You are very confused about firearms.

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21-09-2014, 05:27 PM
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(21-09-2014 05:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(21-09-2014 05:26 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Any gun that is not a pistol basically.

You are very confused about firearms.

Just notice I meant to say sidearmConfused

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21-09-2014, 05:35 PM
RE: Guns
(21-09-2014 05:27 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(21-09-2014 05:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  You are very confused about firearms.

Just notice I meant to say sidearmConfused


What is your intent? What problem are you trying to solve?

Do you know that the overwhelming majority of firearm homicides are committed with handguns?

And that shotguns and rifles are primarily used for target sports and hunting, most of which takes place elsewhere than on one's own property?

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21-09-2014, 05:38 PM
RE: Guns
(21-09-2014 05:26 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  
(21-09-2014 05:15 PM)Chas Wrote:  Forget #1. Polygraphs are voodoo, not science. Drinking Beverage

Voodoo? You sure you know how they actually work?

from google.
A polygraph (popularly referred to as a lie detector) measures and records several physiological indices such as blood pressure, pulse, respiration, and skin conductivity while the subject is asked and answers a series of questions.

Most people when they lie, their blood pressure and pulse and other stuff is effected. It is a normal part of the stress that occurs when someone lies about something.

They are not objective measures of truth - the readings must be interpreted by a person - and there is no objective standard.

Even an innocent person will have physiological responses based on fear and nervousness.

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21-09-2014, 05:38 PM
RE: Guns
Quote:one can support a regulated system which ensures that only responsible, sane, law-abiding adults have access to firearms;

Ah, yes... the "responsible, sane, law-abiding" gun-owner myth.

Consider these two morons.

http://www.ktbs.com/story/23918847/hunte...son-county

Quote:When deputies and game wardens arrived, they found the body of 51 year-old Benjamin Randell Huffman of Hallsville, Texas below a deer stand.

The witness said that he and Huffman were going hunting and he had entered a deer stand. The witness stated he climbed up a ladder and then turned to receive his weapon. Huffman reportedly handed the rifle to the witness and the rifle discharged as the witness received the rifle with the muzzle pointing downward toward the Huffman.


Sane,responsible and law-abiding right up to that one fucking mistake.

I have a thread going over at AF.org called "All Hail The Second Amendment." It is full of the fuck-ups of sane, responsible and law-abiding gun owners.... and the pile of bodies at their feet.

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21-09-2014, 05:44 PM
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21-09-2014, 05:47 PM
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(21-09-2014 05:38 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  
Quote:one can support a regulated system which ensures that only responsible, sane, law-abiding adults have access to firearms;

Ah, yes... the "responsible, sane, law-abiding" gun-owner myth.

Consider these two morons.

http://www.ktbs.com/story/23918847/hunte...son-county

Quote:When deputies and game wardens arrived, they found the body of 51 year-old Benjamin Randell Huffman of Hallsville, Texas below a deer stand.

The witness said that he and Huffman were going hunting and he had entered a deer stand. The witness stated he climbed up a ladder and then turned to receive his weapon. Huffman reportedly handed the rifle to the witness and the rifle discharged as the witness received the rifle with the muzzle pointing downward toward the Huffman.


Sane,responsible and law-abiding right up to that one fucking mistake.

I have a thread going over at AF.org called "All Hail The Second Amendment." It is full of the fuck-ups of sane, responsible and law-abiding gun owners.... and the pile of bodies at their feet.

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