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24-02-2015, 06:33 AM
RE: Guns
So... nukes then?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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24-02-2015, 06:47 AM
RE: Guns
(24-02-2015 06:33 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  So... nukes then?

Only if you get one you can carry.......


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A nuke is the modern day equivalent of a man-o-war. (heavily armed ship).

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The right to keep and bear arms isn't just about hunting or self defense.

It's to ensure that all other rights are not taken away.

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24-02-2015, 07:11 AM
RE: Guns
(24-02-2015 06:33 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  So... nukes then?

Sure, because all rights are unlimited and irrational interpretation makes so much sense and contributes so well to useful discussion. Drinking Beverage

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24-02-2015, 07:48 AM
RE: Guns
I'm just wondering what "arms" means these days Smile

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24-02-2015, 07:59 AM
RE: Guns
(24-02-2015 07:11 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(24-02-2015 06:33 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  So... nukes then?

Sure, because all rights are unlimited and irrational interpretation makes so much sense and contributes so well to useful discussion. Drinking Beverage

YAY!

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24-02-2015, 08:01 AM
RE: Guns
(24-02-2015 06:33 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  So... nukes then?

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24-02-2015, 09:01 AM
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(24-02-2015 07:48 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  I'm just wondering what "arms" means these days Smile

In my opinion, it means about what it meant then - the arms that an individual soldier might possess, i.e. pistols, rifles, muskets, knives, swords, pole arms.

And the arms possessed by a "well-regulated militia" might include cannon, although I don't know what might reasonably be termed a "well-regulated militia" these days.

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24-02-2015, 12:43 PM
RE: Guns
(24-02-2015 06:33 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  So... nukes then?
It is interesting though, that USA tell their people they have the right to defend themselves with weapons, but then go to the rest of the world and tell them that (although USA has enough nukes to destroy the world several times over) countries aren't allowed WMDs.

Tell you what.
If all countries had long range nukes then USA would no longer invade other countries.
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24-02-2015, 02:19 PM
RE: Guns
As an American - I find it hypocritical that the US doesn't want any new countries in the "nuke club" -- when the USA is the only one to have ever used them......

Sorta "do as I say, and not as I do" kind of thing....

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25-02-2015, 09:43 PM
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Fair has nothing to do with me wanting to maintain my arms, quite the opposite. I recognize that life isn't fair, nor should I expect it to be. I want those who share my values (more or less) to be armed to the fucking teeth, and those whose values are in contradiction with my own to be confined to a cave somewhere with sticks and stones. Nothing groundbreaking about that, it's just self preservation. It's only hypocritical if I assert that I maintain the delusion that the world is fair.

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