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17-05-2017, 11:42 AM
RE: Had I'd known...
(17-05-2017 10:47 AM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  
(17-05-2017 10:24 AM)adey67 Wrote:  Woof woof, am I going to catholic hell now ? Consider

Depends on which Catholic you're asking. I struggle with the idea of Hell for good people (something the current Pope seems to as well). If you ask CC, I'm guessing the answer would be a resounding yes. Then again, first as a Baptist and now as a Catholic, I don't understand why people can be so happy to condemn others to Hell and seem so damn cheery about it (not saying CC is, just that it's sadly common). Why would anyone lack basic empathy and rejoice in the eternal torment of another?

For many American christians, their belief seems to be an excuse to justify their prejudices, give them a group of people to look down on, and to make outrageous claims without having to offer any more evidence than that they have a "relationship with god". Hell, it seems most have never read the bible.
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17-05-2017, 11:44 AM
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(17-05-2017 08:03 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(17-05-2017 05:34 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  ...your particular One True Delusion...

Bowing
Consider that stolen...

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(17-05-2017 05:38 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  What a dishonest schmuck. That borders on "scumbag", or at least "self-righteous bigot".

I need to go back to the Kosher deli up the street to ask for more Yiddish words I can use, so I can properly describe this guy. Like "putz". Really, when you have a douchebag of this caliber, only Yiddish insults will do.

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Don't get all verklempt...
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17-05-2017, 12:01 PM
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(17-05-2017 05:38 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  ... only Yiddish insults will do ...

This was the best I could find; we need an enterprising word hound to run this out to the 100 most essential Yiddish insults. Once learned perhaps I too can claim to be fluent in multiple languages Tongue
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17-05-2017, 12:02 PM
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By the way, it's "If I'd known" or "Had I known"... "Had I'd known" would be "Had I had known" and that's just crazy talk.

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17-05-2017, 12:04 PM
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(17-05-2017 11:44 AM)kemo boy Wrote:  Don't get all verklempt...

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17-05-2017, 12:25 PM
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ColdComfort Wrote:I like talking to atheists. There are sites where you can have reasonable debates. This one seems full of bleating sheep who can't seem to follow a simple thread. Weak, uninformed minds who have nothing to post except scoffing, insults and stupid slogans.
Trust me, they know how to have reasonable debates and they are very, very informed. But sometimes it is better to have fun than debate

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17-05-2017, 12:29 PM
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(17-05-2017 04:17 AM)mordant Wrote:  As I mentioned at the end of the prayer thread just now, if WE had only known that you were simply arguing Catholic theology it would have been very different. As it was, you were living in denial of non-Catholic theology and its ubiquity.

In all honesty we don't engage from a Catholic perspective here very much, because Catholics (or at least non-conservative ones) are by and large more liberal, live-and-let-live on questions of public policy and law and aren't trying to ram their faith down the throats of the faithless to anything like the degree of our more common interlocutors, who tend to be fundamentalist / evangelical authoritarians. Catholics will just pray for us and not expect god to actually do anything. We can live with that.
I wish that catholics in Poland would have such attitude,cause it's more like forbid others anything and do whatever you wish cause dream fairy will forgive you.

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17-05-2017, 01:29 PM
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(17-05-2017 11:36 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Some handle it better than others... the ones who handle it badly are the ones who are so convinced not only that they are right, but that they have a right to have their (stupid/unsupported/etc) ideas coddled and never challenged, or only challenged oh-so-politely, by people who don't already share their ideas.
Yeah the best way I ever heard it put, and what always comes to mind is courtesy of The Oatmeal comic ... translated into what theists seem to expect, it goes something like:

"Why, excuse me kind sir, for disagreeing with you, and kudos to your magnificence." "Don't mention it, my good fellow. It's a mistake we all make from time to time. It's hard to remember that I'm always right."
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17-05-2017, 01:52 PM
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(17-05-2017 04:03 AM)ColdComfort Wrote:  The atheists here were so sensitive I would have chosen my words differently. But see it my way. Who would have thought that " #unthinkingatheist" would hurt the feelings of people who regularly refer to opposing positions as BS. Don't read Feser's book because he insults some atheist writers? True hypocrisy.

I like talking to atheists. There are sites where you can have reasonable debates. This one seems full of bleating sheep who can't seem to follow a simple thread. Weak, uninformed minds who have nothing to post except scoffing, insults and stupid slogans.

Oh. Sorry. I did it again. Insulted you that is. Bye. Laugh out load

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17-05-2017, 01:53 PM
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(17-05-2017 11:16 AM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  What I find interesting is that I specifically did not name any names and people are assuming it was about them. Edit: Except to point out at the end of CC's time here, Inquisition and Bucky were being nicer than I'd be, given how he kept ignoring everything they tried to say. Edit 2: Also I'm sorry, that first sentence comes off far more vitriolic sounding than there is intent for it to do, it's supposed to be more observational than it comes across. It comes off as me being an asshole.

Glad you recognise that. Also, fuck sakes, if I'm *not* one of the people you mean, then you were talking about the empty set. I shat all over him. Stupid thing is, if he could have got off his high horse for a second, he might have had some fun here. All these fundy types... they can't seem to just hang out with us and get to know us. They always gravitate to atheism and theism and have to insert themselves into some conversation and make it about their stupid God. Then when we argue they double down instead of backing off, culminating in bullshit like this stupid thread. If they'd just talk shit for a while they'd find out we're not so bad.

Ah, fuck this. I'm gonna go watch porn. Angry

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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