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27-03-2013, 08:42 AM
Hail Satan!
Alright, we've probably heard the discussions about how much God is a complete douche in the bible and all such as that so I figured why not look at the character who is on the other side of the table... Satan.

Satan seems like a pretty chill character to me; someone who doesn't require you to follow a strict set of rules, just relax and do your own thing.

He's down for sleeping in on the weekends instead of getting up and putting on uncomfortable clothes, then dragging your happy ass to a building where a guy stands up there and tells you how you're going to Hell this week.

He's known to the Christians as "the deceiver" for telling Adam and Eve the truth (how fucked up is that?).

What he's about: Sex, drugs, and rock music, that sounds like a hell of a good time.

He doesn't worry about homosexuals, abortion, the teaching of evolution, or any of the other thing that frequently get Pat Robertson's panties in a knot, in fact he seems not to give a damn.

To my recollection he didn't even kill anyone in the bible until God told him to do it...

While God's son was walking around causing havoc, Satan's son want to bring some ORDER to a NEW WORLD, right?

He's half goat... ya know, scapegoat...LOL

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27-03-2013, 08:50 AM
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You Luciferian. Tongue

I, of course, prefer to toss the whole archaic middle east pantheon, and go with some Gwynnies. Heart

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27-03-2013, 09:00 AM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2013 12:39 AM by Doctor X.)
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27-03-2013, 09:02 AM
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(27-03-2013 09:00 AM)Doctor X Wrote:  
(27-03-2013 08:50 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  You Luciferian. Tongue

"Lucifer" is not a satan.

Satan is undefined. Don't threaten me with scholarship; I got my PJ headphones close at hand. Big Grin

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27-03-2013, 09:10 AM
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I actually did a bible word search for "lucifer", "satan", and "devil", . . . and really didn't find that much "bad" with that character. And yes, he actually told [in the genesis fable] Adam and Eve the truth. From his point of view [not being able to see the future, Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden with the Tree of Life], "death" would have been an unknown concept. Eating from the "Tree of Knowledge" actually DID as the god claimed it would, "making them like us, knowing good and evil".

Some even conclude the "satan" character as the actual "savior" who saved mankind from being a slave to god and giving the benefit OF knowledge so that they could make up their own minds. Freedom, basically. If you equate the character with "Lucifer", . . ."the light bringer", then it makes sense. Bringing light to the darkness of servanthood to a self centered minor deity.

Must my own thoughts on this. I don't have the incredible scholarship that some on here do.
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27-03-2013, 09:33 AM
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When I die, fuck it I wanna go to hell
Cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin' tell
It don't make sense, goin' to heaven wit the goodie-goodies
Dressed in white, I like black Tims and black hoodies
God will probably have me on some real strict shit
No sleepin' all day, no gettin my dick licked
Hangin' with the goodie-goodies loungin' in paradise
Fuck that shit, I wanna tote guns and shoot dice
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27-03-2013, 09:53 AM
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Just as bullshit as Yahweh, of course. An invented bad guy in an invented religion, someone to scare the gullible into being more faithful. Odd that they didn't invent some specific atrocities for him though.

I see him a little bit like Sauron. What did Sauron do wrong, anyway? He sat in his tower. Big whoop. Gandalf ran around telling everyone that Sauron was bad, stirring up armies to fight him, while all Sauron did was sit there and wait to be destroyed. A bad guy who did nothing bad, really. Like Satan, only Sauron is slightly more realistic.

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27-03-2013, 10:15 AM
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(27-03-2013 09:53 AM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  Just as bullshit as Yahweh, of course. An invented bad guy in an invented religion, someone to scare the gullible into being more faithful. Odd that they didn't invent some specific atrocities for him though.

I see him a little bit like Sauron. What did Sauron do wrong, anyway? He sat in his tower. Big whoop. Gandalf ran around telling everyone that Sauron was bad, stirring up armies to fight him, while all Sauron did was sit there and wait to be destroyed. A bad guy who did nothing bad, really. Like Satan, only Sauron is slightly more realistic.


Did you read some abridged version of Lord of the Rings? Or the Classic Comics version?

"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."

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27-03-2013, 10:19 AM
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Oh, here we go... Dodgy

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27-03-2013, 10:21 AM
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(27-03-2013 10:15 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(27-03-2013 09:53 AM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  Just as bullshit as Yahweh, of course. An invented bad guy in an invented religion, someone to scare the gullible into being more faithful. Odd that they didn't invent some specific atrocities for him though.

I see him a little bit like Sauron. What did Sauron do wrong, anyway? He sat in his tower. Big whoop. Gandalf ran around telling everyone that Sauron was bad, stirring up armies to fight him, while all Sauron did was sit there and wait to be destroyed. A bad guy who did nothing bad, really. Like Satan, only Sauron is slightly more realistic.


Did you read some abridged version of Lord of the Rings? Or the Classic Comics version?

"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."

Ancient history. Might be just legends with no bearing on reality.

Everyone is just taking Gandalf's word for that. Sauron made some cool rings and gave them away for free. Who did he bring? Who did he bind?

Maybe it's all just a plot by Gandalf to overthrow a rival.

Winners write the history books. Sauron was defeated and Gandalf and Elrond wrote the history books, who knows the real story?

In any case, in the actual LotR story, Sauron just sits there and waits to be destroyed. He hires some armies, breeds some more, mainly for self-defense and to attack his hostile neighbor who is constantly at war with him. He does almost nothing worthy of being hunted, persecuted, and ultimately destroyed. Just like Satan.

Two famous fictional bad guys who aren't really all that bad, misunderstood, products of their environment.

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