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09-11-2011, 09:43 AM
Happy Carl Sagan Day
Today would have been Carl Sagan's 77th birthday. Heart




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10-11-2011, 09:31 AM
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
Is this a good place to ask a question about scientists?

We have these two stereotypes: the cold, detached, unfeeling scientist and the mad scientist.
Sagan was obviously neither. Most scientists i've met or read about were neither. They may have been dedicated, single-minded even to the point of obsession, but always sane. Not always good at interpersonal relations, but certainly connected to, entangled with, other people.

So, where do you suppose these misconceptions come from?
And why are they so contradictory?

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10-11-2011, 05:07 PM
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
He is dearly missed.
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10-11-2011, 08:10 PM
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
Hot and cold. Hot is passionate and mad, cold is mathematical and logical. Scientist is firstly human; as there's a boatload of rigor, logic, and mathematics in science, you might think cold - and then listen to Dawkins... Tongue

I don't know any in reality; ran into a few in virtuality - give you the unanimous: love. For the most part, they love it; they ignore the commons outside of their occupation, but be a common, ask the right question to tickle their love - and blammo! Big Grin

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11-11-2011, 04:13 AM
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
(10-11-2011 09:31 AM)Peterkin Wrote:  Is this a good place to ask a question about scientists?

We have these two stereotypes: the cold, detached, unfeeling scientist and the mad scientist.
Sagan was obviously neither. Most scientists i've met or read about were neither. They may have been dedicated, single-minded even to the point of obsession, but always sane. Not always good at interpersonal relations, but certainly connected to, entangled with, other people.

So, where do you suppose these misconceptions come from?
And why are they so contradictory?

I think the sicentists considered "mad" go against the grain of contempory thinking.

They get shunned by the rest of society because there ideas dont normally match what is banded about in the scientific community.

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11-11-2011, 10:16 AM
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
No, i don't mean shunning real people with odd ideas - we always do that!
I mean the stereotypes of literature and comics, and especially of film.

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11-11-2011, 02:02 PM
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
Scientists are seen as pushing limits of what Man can do and know, therefore they are outrageous and crazed with obsession according to the comfortable middle ground people.

The earlier big science fiction stories embodied that stereotype with Victor Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and the general education of people have used those examples with the well known scientists of history. Einstein is often hyped up to have been a goofylooking man with wild ideas to children in school so much that, that image is what is synonymous with his name over anything else.

Carl Sagan is great and I feel quite ashamed it has only been in the last few months I found out who he was.
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11-11-2011, 07:38 PM
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.
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11-11-2011, 09:40 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2011 09:53 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Happy Carl Sagan Day
(11-11-2011 07:38 PM)Saimmaq Wrote:  Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.
Carl Sagan

Far more galaxies than people. ... 'nuff said.




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