Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
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18-10-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 01:43 PM)Leo Wrote:  What's a Orthodox Church ?

All churches are orthodox... just ask them.
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18-10-2016, 01:53 PM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 01:37 PM)theBorg Wrote:  .....Bob says, what he turned right because he lives there, but did not prove that claim. But then the police did find out his address.....

Can you continue from here?
No, the police didn't find out his address. That would be a fact and your "miracle" had none which was the point. Your "miracle" started with a huge assumption upon which the rest of the story was built.

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18-10-2016, 04:19 PM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 01:45 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(18-10-2016 01:43 PM)Leo Wrote:  What's a Orthodox Church ?

All churches are orthodox... just ask them.
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I prefer churches that are unorthodox.

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18-10-2016, 11:15 PM (This post was last modified: 18-10-2016 11:23 PM by theBorg.)
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 01:44 PM)unfogged Wrote:  .................
The point is that there was no good reason to believe Bob's claim before the police found his address. Once there is sufficient evidence for a claim the situation changes.

In case of a crime, the address should be proven. But if the situation is normal, we just blindly trust the Bob. Correct?
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18-10-2016, 11:18 PM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 01:43 PM)Leo Wrote:  .................
What's a Orthodox Church ?


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18-10-2016, 11:22 PM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 01:53 PM)Impulse Wrote:  ......... Your "miracle" started with a huge assumption upon which the rest of the story was built.

Please state clear and concise the alleged assumption.
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19-10-2016, 12:53 AM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 11:22 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(18-10-2016 01:53 PM)Impulse Wrote:  ......... Your "miracle" started with a huge assumption upon which the rest of the story was built.

Please state clear and concise the alleged assumption.

You asking for clear statements? Blink

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19-10-2016, 03:56 AM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 11:22 PM)theBorg Wrote:  Please state clear and concise the alleged assumption.

LOL... this request coming from someone who possesses nothing more than an 8th grade level of English, and a pre-schooler's level of logic! Big Grin

This sad shit-for-brains doesn't even understand that the phrase "alleged assumption" is an obvious tautology. More laughter ensues...

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19-10-2016, 05:43 AM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(18-10-2016 11:15 PM)theBorg Wrote:  
(18-10-2016 01:44 PM)unfogged Wrote:  .................
The point is that there was no good reason to believe Bob's claim before the police found his address. Once there is sufficient evidence for a claim the situation changes.

In case of a crime, the address should be proven. But if the situation is normal, we just blindly trust the Bob. Correct?

No, not at all. In the example given Bob did not have any good reason to claim that the person turned towards his house. Bob was making an assumption based on no evidence and claiming that others should believe it. Believing without good evidence is not rational.

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19-10-2016, 07:29 AM
RE: Has Jesus "converted" many theists into atheists?
(19-10-2016 05:43 AM)unfogged Wrote:  .......... Believing without good evidence is not rational.

And what do you do, when you ask for directions in a foreign city? You trust the people around.


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