Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
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27-05-2016, 02:55 AM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
(27-05-2016 02:45 AM)GeddyRulz Wrote:  Has everyone seen the debate between Ray and Kirk Cameron on one side and two young atheists on the other? It's a shambles.

It was the Rational Response Squad.




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27-05-2016, 05:42 AM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
I just watched it again, and again I wished there were better debaters on the atheist side. Ray/Kirk's argument for the existence of God could've been destroyed so badly, it might've snapped Kirk into de-converting.

What I found most egregious with this latest viewing (in addition to Ray/Kirk's dishonesty: they DIDN'T make their case for God's existence without invoking faith) is Kirk's projection onto atheists of what is actually the creationist's weaknesses. Kirk says the atheists are ignoring the evidence and pre-supposing there's no God... but there's no evidence of God to ignore; it's the creationists who must ignore all the evidence (for evolution) and the creationists who must pre-suppose something. Atheists don't pre-suppose anything; we only accept things based on evidence, and their side has none.
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27-05-2016, 05:55 AM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
(26-05-2016 11:28 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  $10,000 challenge

Comfort had a standing $10,000 challenge to anyone who could show him a transitional fossil. However, not just any fossil would do, and Comfort demanded that someone show him a lizard producing a bird, a dog producing a cat or, even stranger, a sheep producing a chicken. The deafening silence to his throwing down of the gauntlet (outside the sound of a million face-palms) only went to prove to Comfort that evolution is false and that transitionals do not exist.

Ha! That'd be like me disproving Christianity by offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can produce the actual cross with Jesus' skeleton nailed to it.

Not only is the demand stupid, but it demands things that the other side doesn't believe exist and have never claimed exist.

"If you don't produce a strawman that you don't believe in, then the things you do believe in are wrong." What a childish assclown.
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27-05-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
(27-05-2016 05:55 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Ha! That'd be like me disproving Christianity by offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can produce the actual cross with Jesus' skeleton nailed to it.

How about 1000$ for a nail? Wink

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27-05-2016, 08:02 AM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
(27-05-2016 05:55 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(26-05-2016 11:28 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  $10,000 challenge

Comfort had a standing $10,000 challenge to anyone who could show him a transitional fossil. However, not just any fossil would do, and Comfort demanded that someone show him a lizard producing a bird, a dog producing a cat or, even stranger, a sheep producing a chicken. The deafening silence to his throwing down of the gauntlet (outside the sound of a million face-palms) only went to prove to Comfort that evolution is false and that transitionals do not exist.

Ha! That'd be like me disproving Christianity by offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can produce the actual cross with Jesus' skeleton nailed to it.

Not only is the demand stupid, but it demands things that the other side doesn't believe exist and have never claimed exist.

"If you don't produce a strawman that you don't believe in, then the things you do believe in are wrong." What a childish assclown.

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27-05-2016, 08:17 AM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
His methods are also real in-your-face quick questions. He runs up to random people, asks them a question they're not prepared for, and doesn't give them time to prosses. Because we can't have people thinking.

I can't find the video. But he had one where he asked people "If Noah's flood didn't happen. Where did all the water come from?"

Most people responded. "Huh I never thought about it like that." or "OMG you're right!" I'm sure he edited out the "What are you a fucking idiot?" comments out.


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27-05-2016, 09:06 AM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
Comfort notoriously "lies for Jebus" on a frequent basis.




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27-05-2016, 12:19 PM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
(27-05-2016 02:55 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(27-05-2016 02:45 AM)GeddyRulz Wrote:  Has everyone seen the debate between Ray and Kirk Cameron on one side and two young atheists on the other? It's a shambles.

It was the Rational Response Squad.



I had such a crush on him when he was growing pains. Then when he went all religious I lost it all for him. It was such a let down on still recoving. ;(
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27-05-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
(27-05-2016 09:06 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  Comfort notoriously "lies for Jebus" on a frequent basis.

Wow, what a douche nozzle. I mean, I knew he was a douche nozzle already, but to deliberately record a video that asks the interviewees one question and then go back and voice over with a differently-phrased question... that's... wow.

Scumbag.

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27-05-2016, 03:29 PM
RE: Has any intelligent Atheist ever won against Ray?
(25-05-2016 06:26 PM)KUSA Wrote:  Ray always makes a fool of Atheists starting out with the "you think something came from nothing "?

Well shit, if God exists then he must have came from nothing too.

This Atheist has nothing.
https://youtu.be/ynQIG_T6lLY

In order to win a debate, you actually need to be in one and Ray Comfort doesn't debate. He throws up straw men. He asserts. He spouts one liners. He preaches. He threatens with hell. He's not interested in debate but in creating a spectacle. He claims that his opponent already knows that God exists but he provides no argument for this other than to fallaciously point to passages in the Bible. He's out there twerking for Jesus.

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