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22-03-2012, 03:48 PM
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
(22-03-2012 03:15 PM)San Onofre Surfer Wrote:  Has anyone been reading *g*r's website?
Are you kidding ? Why would anyone do that ?
No wonder he hangs out here.

Hey, don't knock it. Some people pay a lot of money for this kind of entertainment! Big Grin
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22-03-2012, 03:48 PM
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
(22-03-2012 03:46 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Ah...Jesus is watching your every move and he warns those who love him about the evil ones. Its a sign. Repent...for the kingdom of god is at hand!

But we did that in May *and* October last year. I think once every 6 months is more than adequate. It's more frequently than I go to the dentist.
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22-03-2012, 05:54 PM
 
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
(22-03-2012 02:45 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  Anyone? I have and I thought you'd all love to see this (apologies if it's already been posted).
One of Egor's articles centres on Worthy Christian Forums, or more specifically, Moderator Alan.
The focus of the article is a conversation shared by Egor and Alan after Egor was banned.
Here is part of one of the messages sent by Alan to Egor;
Alan Wrote:First, your post was not deleted, it was hidden until we could discuss the content that you have been posting. So to set things straight, we don't fear what you do, we are concerned that you may influence the weak and new in Christ and draw them away from the truth. This is our responsibility.
That's right people, righteous Mod Alan has actually gone and banned someone because he is concerned that their posts may indirectly influence the 'weak minded' from Christianity.

A member of the Christian community, known for preying on the 'weak minded' and vulnerable is concerned that someone's opinions may influence people.

It's just too ridiculous for words, on so many levels! At this point I wanted to make a joke about the irony of his comment but the irony was just so hugely ridiculous that my head feels like it's been completely overloaded Big Grin.

Interesting. That irony had completely escaped me. Good point. And thanks for reading the site. And I wasn’t trying to “convert” anyone. I explained what I believed and people were asking me questions and I was answering them. That’s it.

(22-03-2012 03:04 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yeah, I've been following his site pretty closely (it's quite well done), and I got a good laugh at what Alan wrote.

Thanks for the compliment, K.C. And thanks for stopping by to check it out.

Quote:It's been awhile since I've been banned from anywhere... might be fun.

Well, then you’re just letting the best in life pass you by!

(22-03-2012 03:24 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  I hope you have better luck than me. I just signed up and the minute I was registered I got an automated message saying I wasn't allowed to view the forum, at all. I mean even non-members can read the posts. I have more access to the site when signed out than in.

Either their software is stupid or they have weird psychic powers that tell them I'm an atheist Huh.

They are so paranoid of atheists, that it wouldn’t surprise me if they came in here and just automatically banned any name associated with this forum. They really shouldn’t be afraid of atheists, however. They need to be afraid of me. I have a book coming out this year that will contain an argument against the Christian notion of God on a very fundamental level, and I’ve had it for a while, but it’s never been right to publish it, especially when I still thought I might be a Christian.

You will consider it a gift, but it’s kind of like pyrite, fool's gold. You will use the argument to kill Christianity, but it will only fatten you up for me.

…I think I really am beginning to see the whole universe like a giant MMA cage match.

(22-03-2012 03:38 PM)Indian Wrote:  He made a post on believers revolt about god giving him an amazing ability to read dreams using his own special astrology.... Yep you guys were right he's a nutcase

I’ve always loved astrology. It’s not about planets having powers or anything like that, it’s symbolic, and that’s what I’m good at, interpreting symbols. You know, God incarnated us at a specific point in the universe when the planets and stars were a certain way. From then on, you can see the fatalistic forces at work in a person’s life. It’s why the Gospels just absolutely blow me away. The symbols are so deep in them that no writer could have ever intentionally written them that way. They are simply miraculous.

You should try the dream thing. Tell me a dream you’ve had recently that you’ve wondered what it meant. I’d rather interpret other people’s dreams than my own. It’s like going into new worlds and new minds.

I used to need a bunch of personal info to look at your chart (birth date, place, time, where you live, what the exact time of the dream was, your ethnicity, gender, etc.) but people online don’t want to do that. And who can blame them? You can only do that with in-person consultations. All I would need is about the date you had the dream, your birth sign (or your birth date, time and place, if you want). It’s not good, but it’s enough. And of course your description of the dream.

It’s no big deal. It’s fun, and it’s not about Veridicanism. But keep in mind I believe dreams are communications from the Divine, so I’m going to interpret that way.

And right now all I talk with is angry Christians (KC excluded) and atheists. I want to start adding this in so I can talk to other people who are spiritual, but not necessarily religious.
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22-03-2012, 06:42 PM (This post was last modified: 22-03-2012 11:18 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
(22-03-2012 05:54 PM)Egor Wrote:  But keep in mind I believe dreams are communications from the Divine, so I’m going to interpret that way.

Instead of just byproducts of processing the day's events to decide which get moved to long term memory and which get discarded? ... Actually, that does feel kinda Divine to me. Wink

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22-03-2012, 08:01 PM
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
(22-03-2012 05:54 PM)Egor Wrote:  
(22-03-2012 02:45 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  Anyone? I have and I thought you'd all love to see this (apologies if it's already been posted).
One of Egor's articles centres on Worthy Christian Forums, or more specifically, Moderator Alan.
The focus of the article is a conversation shared by Egor and Alan after Egor was banned.
Here is part of one of the messages sent by Alan to Egor;
Alan Wrote:First, your post was not deleted, it was hidden until we could discuss the content that you have been posting. So to set things straight, we don't fear what you do, we are concerned that you may influence the weak and new in Christ and draw them away from the truth. This is our responsibility.
That's right people, righteous Mod Alan has actually gone and banned someone because he is concerned that their posts may indirectly influence the 'weak minded' from Christianity.

A member of the Christian community, known for preying on the 'weak minded' and vulnerable is concerned that someone's opinions may influence people.

It's just too ridiculous for words, on so many levels! At this point I wanted to make a joke about the irony of his comment but the irony was just so hugely ridiculous that my head feels like it's been completely overloaded Big Grin.

Interesting. That irony had completely escaped me. Good point. And thanks for reading the site. And I wasn’t trying to “convert” anyone. I explained what I believed and people were asking me questions and I was answering them. That’s it.

(22-03-2012 03:04 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yeah, I've been following his site pretty closely (it's quite well done), and I got a good laugh at what Alan wrote.

Thanks for the compliment, K.C. And thanks for stopping by to check it out.

Quote:It's been awhile since I've been banned from anywhere... might be fun.

Well, then you’re just letting the best in life pass you by!

(22-03-2012 03:24 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  I hope you have better luck than me. I just signed up and the minute I was registered I got an automated message saying I wasn't allowed to view the forum, at all. I mean even non-members can read the posts. I have more access to the site when signed out than in.

Either their software is stupid or they have weird psychic powers that tell them I'm an atheist Huh.

They are so paranoid of atheists, that it wouldn’t surprise me if they came in here and just automatically banned any name associated with this forum. They really shouldn’t be afraid of atheists, however. They need to be afraid of me. I have a book coming out this year that will contain an argument against the Christian notion of God on a very fundamental level, and I’ve had it for a while, but it’s never been right to publish it, especially when I still thought I might be a Christian.

You will consider it a gift, but it’s kind of like pyrite, fool's gold. You will use the argument to kill Christianity, but it will only fatten you up for me.

…I think I really am beginning to see the whole universe like a giant MMA cage match.

(22-03-2012 03:38 PM)Indian Wrote:  He made a post on believers revolt about god giving him an amazing ability to read dreams using his own special astrology.... Yep you guys were right he's a nutcase

I’ve always loved astrology. It’s not about planets having powers or anything like that, it’s symbolic, and that’s what I’m good at, interpreting symbols. You know, God incarnated us at a specific point in the universe when the planets and stars were a certain way. From then on, you can see the fatalistic forces at work in a person’s life. It’s why the Gospels just absolutely blow me away. The symbols are so deep in them that no writer could have ever intentionally written them that way. They are simply miraculous.

You should try the dream thing. Tell me a dream you’ve had recently that you’ve wondered what it meant. I’d rather interpret other people’s dreams than my own. It’s like going into new worlds and new minds.

I used to need a bunch of personal info to look at your chart (birth date, place, time, where you live, what the exact time of the dream was, your ethnicity, gender, etc.) but people online don’t want to do that. And who can blame them? You can only do that with in-person consultations. All I would need is about the date you had the dream, your birth sign (or your birth date, time and place, if you want). It’s not good, but it’s enough. And of course your description of the dream.

It’s no big deal. It’s fun, and it’s not about Veridicanism. But keep in mind I believe dreams are communications from the Divine, so I’m going to interpret that way.

And right now all I talk with is angry Christians (KC excluded) and atheists. I want to start adding this in so I can talk to other people who are spiritual, but not necessarily religious.
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Assuming there is a god (which there isn't) how do you know he created us at a specific point in time when the stars and planets were in some random order?. And given a plausible explanation to the first question why do you assume just because god created us during this random time that they now can become accurate symbols that represent lives. Symbols are just abstract - they have no meaning until someone gives them meaning. So these "symbols" in the gospel are your own doing. You give them symbolic value. And you are delusional if you think the stars and planets somehow apply to people.

I know how this works you'll give me some vague bullshit and I'll put my own meaning into it, and voila! you have given me an accurate interpretation. My parents are Hindus, they are into this wacky shit. I know it doesn't work.
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22-03-2012, 08:29 PM
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
Dreams are cause Gwynnies in real life kill me dead Big Grin

Christians spend a lot of time being angry. Egor says some crazy shit but he ain't malicious. I read some of it.

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22-03-2012, 08:51 PM
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(22-03-2012 08:29 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Dreams are cause Gwynnies in real life kill me dead Big Grin

Christians spend a lot of time being angry. Egor says some crazy shit but he ain't malicious. I read some of it.

This could be the highest praise Egor could ever receive.

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23-03-2012, 02:34 AM
 
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
(22-03-2012 06:42 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(22-03-2012 05:54 PM)Egor Wrote:  But keep in mind I believe dreams are communications from the Divine, so I’m going to interpret that way.

Instead of just byproducts of processing the day's events to decide which get moved to long term memory and which get discarded? ... Actually, that does feel kinda Divine to me. Wink

You've got to be kidding.

(22-03-2012 08:01 PM)Indian Wrote:  Assuming there is a god (which there isn't) how do you know he created us at a specific point in time when the stars and planets were in some random order?

I just do. Besides, the stars and planets are never in a random order.

Quote:And given a plausible explanation to the first question why do you assume just because god created us during this random time that they now can become accurate symbols that represent lives.

If God created us, it wasn't random, was it? As for astrology, forget it. Maybe it's nothing but a tool that helps me focus. I'm not going to become an apologist for it. I can interpret dreams without it as well.

Quote: Symbols are just abstract - they have no meaning until someone gives them meaning. So these "symbols" in the gospel are your own doing. You give them symbolic value. And you are delusional if you think the stars and planets somehow apply to people.

Are you an ex-astrologer? Most people who get into it, never leave it. My chart represents me to a tee. The charts I've done when I had dream interpretation clients were accurate enough that I was able to make better assessments of their dreams than I could without them. That's all. It's not a religion, and I don't put "faith" in it. Maybe a psychic sees things in her crystal ball, or mabey the ball just helps her focus. That's how it is with me.

Quote:I know how this works you'll give me some vague bullshit and I'll put my own meaning into it, and voila! you have given me an accurate interpretation. My parents are Hindus, they are into this wacky shit. I know it doesn't work.

I've done a lot of dreams for people in India...ah, now I get the nic. I always liked those clients.

But if what I give you is vague BS and you get something from it, how can it be BS? But hey, you're not into it, so don't worry about it.
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23-03-2012, 02:50 AM
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oh wait, now you believe in astrology and dream and esoteric stuff? do you read hands too?

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23-03-2012, 03:31 AM
RE: Has anyone been reading Egor's website?
Egor.

You believe in astrology and you mention fate. Elsewhere you have argued for free will. Have you ever considered that both can't exist. If there is fate then free will would be a sham, if there is free will then fate cannot exist and astrology etc would be rubbish.

Please also consider that if you believe in fate you believe all us Atheists are exactly where we are supposed to be in life, it would after all be our fate. Please don't say about deviating from fate, as the second you say this it is no longer fate. Fate by definition could not be deviated from.

Also please note that if fate guides the big decisions and we use free will for the smaller day to day living (something I have heard from someone elsewhere) then free will would be an illusion also as ultimately we are going to end up in the same place negating all free will.

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