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05-08-2015, 06:51 PM
RE: Hey Zeus!
(05-08-2015 06:50 PM)Chas Wrote:  Multiple retellings of the same myth. Every one of those is hearsay decades after the alleged events.

Assertion.

Evidence please?

1. Prove "retellings of the 'same' myth.'

2. Prove "hearsay."

Guess what, Chas?

You're fucked.

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05-08-2015, 06:58 PM
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(05-08-2015 06:51 PM)Free Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 06:50 PM)Chas Wrote:  Multiple retellings of the same myth. Every one of those is hearsay decades after the alleged events.

Assertion.

Evidence please?

1. Prove "retellings of the 'same' myth.'

2. Prove "hearsay."

Guess what, Chas?

You're fucked.

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It is hearsay because none of them were witness to the alleged events.

They are retelling a tale they have heard - that is what makes a myth.

And go fuck yourself. Drinking Beverage

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05-08-2015, 07:11 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2015 11:37 AM by Free.)
RE: Hey Zeus!
(05-08-2015 06:58 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 06:51 PM)Free Wrote:  Assertion.

Evidence please?

1. Prove "retellings of the 'same' myth.'

2. Prove "hearsay."

Guess what, Chas?

You're fucked.

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It is hearsay because none of them were witness to the alleged events.

Now, that is not what you inferred by hearsay. You said, "Every one of those is hearsay decades after the alleged events."

1. Paul was a contemporary, and that fact alone invalidates your claim of "Every one of those is hearsay decades after the alleged events."

2. There is no evidence that Tacitus used any hearsay, and in fact there is good evidence he used Roman historical sources, which incidentally would be the natural thing to do considering he was a ROMAN HISTORIAN (<----did you see what I did thar?)Big Grin

The reality here is this:

a) since there is no evidence of hearsay,
b) and Tacitus explicitly states that he deplores using hearsay,
c) and Tacitus tells us frequently when something is in fact hearsay,
d) and Tacitus tells us right at the beginning of the story of The Great Fires of Rome- which includes Christ and the Christians- that he is using previously written Roman sources,
e) and Tacitus tells us again immediately after the part regarding Christ that he is accessing Roman sources,
f) and Tacitus can be seen accessing various Roman sources countless times for his history book,
g) and Tacitus is writing Roman history regarding high ranking officials such as Pontius Pilate and Caesar Tiberius in regards to them being involved with the execution of Christ,

Then therore the inconvenient truth for all mythers in this is that the evidence clearly indicates that he is not using hearsay at all, but rather demonstrates with solid evidence that he is using both Primary and Secondary Sources.

So any claim of hearsay is a desperate attempt to avoid an inconvenient truth.


Personally, I would much rather that the bastard didn't exist at all. I would greatly fucking welcome actual evidence to support a total myth. But every last fucking argument I see from these fucking uneducated mythers is so fucking immature, non-researched, illogical, and incredibly fallacious.

Yes, there is evidence that somebody named Jesus was called Christ, and that he was executed by Pontius Pilate in Judea. It does not matter in the slightest whether we like it or not, nor can we recklessly throw assertions at it just because it is what it is.

It is the evidence that speaks to us, not ... fucking ... bullshit ... assertions.



Quote:They are retelling a tale they have heard - that is what makes a myth.

Huh? Even MORE baseless assertion? I expect better from you, Chas.

Quote:And go fuck yourself. Drinking Beverage

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