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14-07-2016, 12:44 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 12:36 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(14-07-2016 12:18 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I really do not know for sure, but I do think the crime that occurred at the Target store would not have occurred if Target did not change their policy regarding transgender and bathroom/dressing rooms. Target's policy change made it easier for this man to commit the crime that he did.

If true then what is different about America and the rest of the world that does not have these rules in place and allows trans people to use the facilities of their choice?

don't you know that America is the exception?

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14-07-2016, 12:44 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 12:36 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(14-07-2016 12:18 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I really do not know for sure, but I do think the crime that occurred at the Target store would not have occurred if Target did not change their policy regarding transgender and bathroom/dressing rooms. Target's policy change made it easier for this man to commit the crime that he did.

If true then what is different about America and the rest of the world that does not have these rules in place and allows trans people to use the facilities of their choice?

In about 80 countries it is illegal to be transgendered so your claim that the rest of the world allows transgendered people to use the bathroom they identify with is false.
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14-07-2016, 12:47 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 12:44 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(14-07-2016 12:36 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  If true then what is different about America and the rest of the world that does not have these rules in place and allows trans people to use the facilities of their choice?

In about 80 countries it is illegal to be transgendered so your claim that the rest of the world allows transgendered people to use the bathroom they identify with is false.

"the rest of the world that does not have these rules in place and allows trans people to use the facilities of their choice"

I would say that's pretty clear qualification that Mathilda was speaking regarding those nations which do not restrict trans people from their choice bathrooms which are not the US.

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14-07-2016, 12:49 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 12:47 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  I would say that's pretty clear qualification that Mathilda was speaking regarding those nations which do not restrict trans people from their choice bathrooms which are not the US.

In those countries it has become easier for a perv to perv out.
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14-07-2016, 01:23 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/magazi....html?_r=0

Biological sex is not binary. Long article, but interesting.

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Quote:Some intersex women, for instance, have XX chromosomes and ovaries, but because of a genetic quirk are born with ambiguous genitalia, neither male nor female. Others have XY chromosomes and undescended testes, but a mutation affecting a key enzyme makes them appear female at birth; they’re raised as girls, though at puberty, rising testosterone levels spur a deeper voice, an elongated clitoris and increased muscle mass. Still other intersex women have XY chromosomes and internal testes but appear female their whole lives, developing rounded hips and breasts, because their cells are insensitive to testosterone. They, like others, may never know their sex development was unusual, unless they’re tested for infertility — or to compete in world-class sports.

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14-07-2016, 01:33 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 12:49 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(14-07-2016 12:47 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  I would say that's pretty clear qualification that Mathilda was speaking regarding those nations which do not restrict trans people from their choice bathrooms which are not the US.

In those countries it has become easier for a perv to perv out.

Yet there is no evidence that it happens more than in America. So why does America need these laws?
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14-07-2016, 01:41 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 01:33 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(14-07-2016 12:49 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  In those countries it has become easier for a perv to perv out.

Yet there is no evidence that it happens more than in America. So why does America need these laws?

We don't.

It is not the governments job to tell you what bathroom to use. I think we had this figured out well enough until people tried to make it an issue. Now we got a mess. The ones who benefit from this are the pervs like the guy in the Target article.
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14-07-2016, 05:36 AM (This post was last modified: 14-07-2016 06:51 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 01:41 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(14-07-2016 01:33 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Yet there is no evidence that it happens more than in America. So why does America need these laws?

We don't.

It is not the governments job to tell you what bathroom to use. I think we had this figured out well enough until people tried to make it an issue. Now we got a mess. The ones who benefit from this are the pervs like the guy in the Target article.

Speculation.
You have presented no evidence for your speculation.
One example proves nothing, Mr. "Dawkins-got-it-wrong" Facepalm
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14-07-2016, 08:16 AM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 12:18 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I think we can speculate that if we make it easier for a particular type of crime to be committed, then more of that type of crime will be committed. Now sometimes it is better to make it easier for a particular type of crime to be committed but not because you want more of that crime, but rather you want something else so bad you are willing to tolerate that increase in crime. You have a right to privacy in your own home. Because that right exist, some will abuse it and use their home for nefarious activities. It is a trade off and life is full of trade offs.

I really do not know for sure, but I do think the crime that occurred at the Target store would not have occurred if Target did not change their policy regarding transgender and bathroom/dressing rooms. Target's policy change made it easier for this man to commit the crime that he did.

For what it is worth, I think it is up to Target to set the rules that people are supposed to follow on their private property so if they want to welcome transvestites into their bathrooms/dressing rooms, they should be free to do so. Walmart should be free to enforce the rule that you have to use the dressing room/bathroom of your biological sex if they want.

I don't think the law makes it easier for sexual predator to enter bathrooms to peek on people. Public bathrooms are rarely, if ever, under surveillance by security services. Thus it's extremely easy to enter. Most transexual look enough like women (or men) that even if there was a security guard, he might let them through.

Then again, sexual segregation of bathroom has no effect on homosexual sex predators. Considering the number of homosexual or bisexual sex predator (or even producer of amateur illegal pornography) compared to sexual predators who happen to transexuals (or willing to appear as such) we can safely assume that, if there is an increase in such incident, it's a insignificant one.

In fact, if we consider that transgender people were the group who was the most often sexualy assaulted in bathrooms by a wide margin, maybe we can expect a decrease in sexual crimes in bathrooms.

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14-07-2016, 10:24 PM
RE: Heywood thoughts about transgendered folk using shitters not of thier bioligical sex
(14-07-2016 05:36 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Speculation.
You have presented no evidence for your speculation.
One example proves nothing, Mr. "Dawkins-got-it-wrong" Facepalm
But then, one anecdotal story is enough for you, isn't it. Weeping
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