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26-01-2017, 12:19 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 12:14 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 12:07 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  You wanna bet? They have been hammering on shit like this since her husband was President. I don't think they will ever let it rest. They will bring it up every time she pokes her head above water.

True, but it also loses its effectiveness when nothing happens as result. As LDH likes to remind us, with republicans in control everything they can't find a way to charge and arrest her and make her stand trial? I'm just repeating LDH's rhetoric since he speaks so fluently for the common republican mindset.

Unless of course, there was nothing there to begin with, and the FBI did actually interfere with the election to make sure she didn't win. I'm not suggesting that she didn't have her own issues (because obviously she did -- many other issues as far as I was concerned which I really believe is why she lost), but you can't keep complaining about the same thing before it just becomes white noise and no one listens.

I think Trump will leave her alone. With republicans in control, Jeff Sessions as AG, Comey staying on as FBI director, it would look like a witch hunt. Revenge. That's bad news. They need to let it go even if they have evidence to convict.

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26-01-2017, 12:29 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 12:19 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 12:14 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  True, but it also loses its effectiveness when nothing happens as result. As LDH likes to remind us, with republicans in control everything they can't find a way to charge and arrest her and make her stand trial? I'm just repeating LDH's rhetoric since he speaks so fluently for the common republican mindset.

Unless of course, there was nothing there to begin with, and the FBI did actually interfere with the election to make sure she didn't win. I'm not suggesting that she didn't have her own issues (because obviously she did -- many other issues as far as I was concerned which I really believe is why she lost), but you can't keep complaining about the same thing before it just becomes white noise and no one listens.

I think Trump will leave her alone. With republicans in control, Jeff Sessions as AG, Comey staying on as FBI director, it would look like a witch hunt. Revenge. That's bad news. They need to let it go even if they have evidence to convict.

That doesn't matter then. Even if they had evidence and decided not to act on it still reflects poorly on them. So if she runs in 20/20 that is one argument against her that has lost all its power.

Clinton still has other issues, she'd have work super hard to energize democrats and I'm not sure she can do that. It might depend on how poorly things go under PPP -- if things continue to spiral downward, then ya, she'd stand a good chance of winning the default. But if things kinda just continue and four years most people feel they're no worse off...then yeah she's going to have a huge uphill battle.

Someone else, might have an easier time, but again they have to energize the democrats and I'm not seeing anyone right now that I think can create that kind of buzz that's really needed. In two years, things can change...so we wait and see.


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26-01-2017, 01:24 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 11:10 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Sources close to Hillary Clinton are whispering she might be interested in having her own left leaning TV talk show, to stay in the public eye for a possible presidential run in 2020. Author Ed Klein says he spoke to someone with direct knowledge of her intentions and this person confirmed the possibility. Of course these are all anonymous sources so we will never know for sure until we hear it officially. http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/report...talk-show/

I say she should go for it. Hillary should definitely run against Donald Trump in 2020.

My reaction: Oh, hell no!
I'm sure I'm not alone; not by a long shot. And that's exactly why she will never get nominated again, especially to run against Trump. Democrats need more of a sure thing next time. Trump MUST go...

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26-01-2017, 08:22 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 12:19 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  I think Trump will leave her alone. With republicans in control, Jeff Sessions as AG, Comey staying on as FBI director, it would look like a witch hunt. Revenge. That's bad news. They need to let it go even if they have evidence to convict.
When was Trump ever bothered by "bad optics"? He seems to revel in them.

I think it's a simple case of something that got cheers at his rallies and pumped people up, that he was never personally invested in.

Also, he may have simply understood that there was a significant chance such an effort would fail. Clinton was guilty, in my view, of being a soulless grifter, but like Bill, she always knew how to skate along the just-barely-legal side of every question.
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26-01-2017, 08:31 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 12:09 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 12:04 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  I thought the Petulant Puppet President was going to "lock her up."

That's what he kept saying...of course he also said he was going to build a wall and mexico will pay for it. Consider

Now mexico has cancelled their meeting because, No they're not. Drinking Beverage

While I don't think she should even consider running again...if PPP continues on his path of alienating and short-sightedness, I think it's entirely possible that she could win. The email scandal will be far behind her by that time, Seriously if she's not arrested, charged and convicted of anything you can't keep bringing that shit up...

Technically she's a conservative anyway...So wall street won't give a shit.

Mexico will pay one way or the other. They might not hand us cash directly, but Sean Spicer hinted yesterday that Mexico will pay indirectly. Higher tariffs is one way. The other is through reduced aid. We send Mexico billions in aid every year. That money can be diverted to the wall. So indirectly, they will pay.

http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/11...-to-Mexico

Well THAT was easy. Dork Osama Lard lying again.
If there are tariffs, WE will pay, which is why the Republicans objected so much today to T Rump's plan today, they backtracked it, almost instantly.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidenti...ent-plans/

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26-01-2017, 08:36 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 08:31 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 12:09 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Mexico will pay one way or the other. They might not hand us cash directly, but Sean Spicer hinted yesterday that Mexico will pay indirectly. Higher tariffs is one way. The other is through reduced aid. We send Mexico billions in aid every year. That money can be diverted to the wall. So indirectly, they will pay.

http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/11...-to-Mexico

Well THAT was easy. Dork Osama Lard lying again.
If there are tariffs, WE will pay, which is why the Republicans objected so much today to T Rump's plan today, they backtracked it, almost instantly.

You forgot to add remittances. I mentioned it in another comment. I forget the exact number but between what the government sends and people in America send billions to their folks back in Mexico, its billions. We can tax it to help pay for the wall or block the transactions until Mexico caves.

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26-01-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 08:36 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 08:31 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/11...-to-Mexico

Well THAT was easy. Dork Osama Lard lying again.
If there are tariffs, WE will pay, which is why the Republicans objected so much today to T Rump's plan today, they backtracked it, almost instantly.

You forgot to add remittances. I mentioned it in another comment. I forget the exact number but between what the government sends and people in America send billions to their folks back in Mexico, its billions. We can tax it to help pay for the wall or block the transactions until Mexico caves.

So not "we". You did lie.

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26-01-2017, 08:42 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 08:39 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 08:36 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  You forgot to add remittances. I mentioned it in another comment. I forget the exact number but between what the government sends and people in America send billions to their folks back in Mexico, its billions. We can tax it to help pay for the wall or block the transactions until Mexico caves.

So not "we". You did lie.

Is that not we? We as in government and the people in America.

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26-01-2017, 08:46 PM (This post was last modified: 26-01-2017 08:50 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 08:42 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 08:39 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  So not "we". You did lie.

Is that not we? We as in government and the people in America.

So you send money to Mexico ?
Any fool knows this would be SO easy to get around. All they do is send it somewhere ELSE to a 3rd party who forwards it to Mexico.
Got Plan B ?
Laugh out load

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26-01-2017, 08:50 PM
RE: Hillary Clinton 2020
(26-01-2017 08:46 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(26-01-2017 08:42 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Is that not we? We as in government and the people in America.

So you send money to Mexico ?

No. It was a general statement. We send billions. As a whole. The total sum of what is sent from the U.S. to Mexico.

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