Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
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02-07-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
(02-07-2016 12:49 PM)natachan Wrote:  I have become a bit concerned about sexism over this campaign cycle. Hillary is fairly stock in terms of politicians. She's done some slimy shit and she's done some remarkable stuff as well. She's done things she probably should not have and has changed her opinions (I don't fault her on that. Changing views over 20 years is to be expected).

Hillary is ambitious. While that is worrisome, it shouldn't be enough to cause this level of bile. And the blatant sexism is revolting that I have seen. The fact that she should not have a female running mate because a large number of people won't vote for an all female ticket saddens me.

Yes, that they would suffer a double-down attack because of their gender is revolting. But I do believe it to be true though.

As much as I think we are ready for a woman president now or soon, I do not think, as a country, we are ready for two women to run together. I have concerns that if they won and for whatever reason it did not go well it would set women working for equality back a long way. I would not like to see that. It may be a bit cowardly of me but I too would prefer to wait on a two woman ticket for that reason. One woman as president first, then let people who hate the idea come to terms with that. Baby steps.

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03-07-2016, 08:35 AM
RE: Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
Elizabeth Warren on Trumps Non-Disclosure of Tax Information. The only candidate in 40 years who wouldn't disclose.




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04-07-2016, 06:25 AM
RE: Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
Too bad for Clinton that the American people don't view it the same way. Hillary somehow managed to be seen as even less honest and trustworthy than a pathological liar like Trump. Quite an accomplishment, that.

"Clinton’s ratings on trustworthiness were already woeful: A Fox News poll two weeks ago found just 31 percent of voters think Clinton is honest and trustworthy, while nearly two-thirds said they don’t think she is. And overall, her numbers are significantly worse than Trump’s scores on the same question. Among independents, nearly 80 percent don’t think she’s honest and trustworthy. Even among Democrats, a third don’t find her trustworthy."
Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hi...ump-223748

I wonder where that discrepancy is coming from. Maybe it's because politifact subjectively chooses which statements to fact check. Consider

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04-07-2016, 09:35 AM
RE: Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
Or maybe because of this... Drinking Beverage

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...pid1024371

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04-07-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
Picking a prez in this group is like trying to pick which VD you want.

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04-07-2016, 10:28 AM
RE: Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
(03-07-2016 08:35 AM)Heatheness Wrote:  Elizabeth Warren on Trumps Non-Disclosure of Tax Information. The only candidate in 40 years who wouldn't disclose.




I'm willing to give Trump a pass on his taxes. He's still an active businessman. If he loses the election, which he probably will, he goes back to being a businessman. A businessman who's business dealings are now public, which gives away some of his business secrets.

I wouldn't want my competition knowing how I do business.

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04-07-2016, 11:31 AM
RE: Hillary, More Honest Than All Her Opponents
What secrets about him do we know, now, that we didn't know before?

The education scam seems to be the only thing I do not like.

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