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18-09-2014, 11:39 AM
RE: Hmmm...
(18-09-2014 11:30 AM)Li_Holodomer Wrote:  
(18-09-2014 11:28 AM)CiderThinker Wrote:  Exactly - regardless of choice - atheism is the default position...

Are babies even spiritual beings in the first place?

Their more animal than man at that point. Implicitly are animals atheists?

What do you mean by spiritual?


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18-09-2014, 11:56 AM
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Yeargh... now we're gonna have baby religious wars... Fuck an' those Jihadi Muslim babies with their green rattles... Tongue

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18-09-2014, 12:40 PM
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I would posit that Babies are by definition Agnostic. On the 4 way chart they have no position on belief of god and have no knowledge.

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18-09-2014, 12:43 PM
RE: Hmmm...
(18-09-2014 11:39 AM)CiderThinker Wrote:  
(18-09-2014 11:30 AM)Li_Holodomer Wrote:  Are babies even spiritual beings in the first place?

Their more animal than man at that point. Implicitly are animals atheists?

What do you mean by spiritual?

To have the ability to have spiritual lives.
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18-09-2014, 12:59 PM
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(18-09-2014 12:43 PM)Li_Holodomer Wrote:  
(18-09-2014 11:39 AM)CiderThinker Wrote:  What do you mean by spiritual?

To have the ability to have spiritual lives.

... Wut? Facepalm

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18-09-2014, 01:01 PM
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(18-09-2014 12:43 PM)Li_Holodomer Wrote:  
(18-09-2014 11:39 AM)CiderThinker Wrote:  What do you mean by spiritual?

To have the ability to have spiritual lives.

Define "spiritual lives" also define "spiritual" without using the word spiritual so it's not circular.

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18-09-2014, 02:20 PM
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(18-09-2014 12:43 PM)Li_Holodomer Wrote:  
(18-09-2014 11:39 AM)CiderThinker Wrote:  What do you mean by spiritual?

To have the ability to have spiritual lives.

And what does that mean?


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18-09-2014, 04:46 PM
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Spiritual - making shit up, then believing in said shit

Insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results
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18-09-2014, 04:57 PM
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I agree with him...

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18-09-2014, 05:03 PM
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Whichever way you look at it, atheism is an opinion... A newborn baby has no opinion of anything at all.

I think agnostic would be a better term, although that isn't entirely satisfactory either, since it implies questioning.

To me its the same as calling a baby a vegetarian, because they don't eat meat...

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