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11-01-2013, 06:41 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 06:35 PM)Logisch Wrote:  
(11-01-2013 06:31 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  Oregon actually practiced sterilization until the mid 80s. Shameful
Seriously??? I was unaware of that.
http://www.uvm.edu/~lkaelber/eugenics/OR/OR.html

One of the things you sadly know when you work in my field. Sad

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11-01-2013, 07:00 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
I'd like to ask REID what, exactly, he means by "feeble-minded" people. What, exactly, do you mean my "feeble-minded" people?

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11-01-2013, 07:09 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 06:31 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  Oregon actually practiced sterilization until the mid 80s. Shameful

It did. Just another reson I wish we'd never moved here. But in its defense, Oregon still isn't in this century either. Medically speaking they're still in the 80s and I'm being generous with that. So, really it's typical that they would continue a deplorable idea long after it was denounced by nearly everyone else.


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11-01-2013, 07:12 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 07:09 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(11-01-2013 06:31 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  Oregon actually practiced sterilization until the mid 80s. Shameful

It did. Just another reson I wish we'd never moved here. But in its defense, Oregon still isn't in this century either. Medically speaking they're still in the 80s and I'm being generous with that. So, really it's typical that they would continue a deplorable idea long after it was denounced by nearly everyone else.
It could be worse. We could be in the south....

On a more positive note its nice to see Oregonians in here. Smile

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11-01-2013, 07:24 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 07:12 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  
(11-01-2013 07:09 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  It did. Just another reson I wish we'd never moved here. But in its defense, Oregon still isn't in this century either. Medically speaking they're still in the 80s and I'm being generous with that. So, really it's typical that they would continue a deplorable idea long after it was denounced by nearly everyone else.
It could be worse. We could be in the south....

On a more positive note its nice to see Oregonians in here. Smile
Central OR here. I saw that mom is also. There's a few more (members of our local Atheist group) but they mostly lurk and don't post.
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11-01-2013, 07:25 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 07:24 PM)Logisch Wrote:  
(11-01-2013 07:12 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  It could be worse. We could be in the south....

On a more positive note its nice to see Oregonians in here. Smile
Central OR here. I saw that mom is also. There's a few more (members of our local Atheist group) but they mostly lurk and don't post.
I went to highschool in Central OR. Live in the valley now. I got out of there as fast as I could. hehe.

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11-01-2013, 07:27 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 07:12 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  
(11-01-2013 07:09 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  It did. Just another reson I wish we'd never moved here. But in its defense, Oregon still isn't in this century either. Medically speaking they're still in the 80s and I'm being generous with that. So, really it's typical that they would continue a deplorable idea long after it was denounced by nearly everyone else.
It could be worse. We could be in the south....

On a more positive note its nice to see Oregonians in here. Smile

My neighbors say I'm not an Oregonian. I'm, to them, 'that chick from Cali." we've been here since 2004. I guess after 20+ years (if we don't move back to California) we'll get our official Oregonian cards. Lmao.

That said you're completely right!!!
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11-01-2013, 07:32 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 07:25 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  
(11-01-2013 07:24 PM)Logisch Wrote:  Central OR here. I saw that mom is also. There's a few more (members of our local Atheist group) but they mostly lurk and don't post.
I went to highschool in Central OR. Live in the valley now. I got out of there as fast as I could. hehe.

I'm up near Portland.


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11-01-2013, 07:32 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
(11-01-2013 07:27 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(11-01-2013 07:12 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  It could be worse. We could be in the south....

On a more positive note its nice to see Oregonians in here. Smile

My neighbors say I'm not an Oregonian. I'm, to them, 'that chick from Cali." we've been here since 2004. I guess after 20+ years (if we don't move back to California) we'll get our official Oregonian cards. Lmao.

That said you're completely right!!!
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Oh if I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone make a slur against anyone out of state (especially the cali stuff).. it gets so old to me and I fail to see why it's a problem. But haters gonna hate haha. I love the Oregon cards line, haha that's great.
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11-01-2013, 07:32 PM
RE: Hobbitgirl - I Challenge You To A Debate On Eugenics
I bet I can win this debate with one name.

Ludwig van Beethoven.

What if we could determine exactly how each possible child a person could have? what if some people's potential children all had some problems?
Would it be better to prevent their birth?

What if we had done this back in the day? We would be in a world without Beethoven.

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