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07-09-2016, 07:06 AM
RE: How I came to TTA. Is this funny?
(06-09-2016 03:53 PM)Dworkin Wrote:  Hi Deltabravo,

Looking carefully through the thread, your posts do read like trolling, but most creatively. Some years back I had a go at trolling. On a science forum I claimed that I could predict the fall of a coin toss by counting the the preceding tosses. This, I believe is the gamblers fallacy or something like that.

Anyway, I stuck to my story and the thread got 15,000 views and massively long replies. Everyone cued up to tell me that I was wrong. I stuck to my story. There is some psychological truth in here somewhere, but I don't know what it is.

So, what I have learned is that trolling is not for me. To gain some respect from a peer group on the web, or anywhere, it helps to be honest, empathetic and sincere. I believe that, but am afraid that Donald Trump might prove me wrong in November. No

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I suppose that's right. I find myself thinking, hey, I'll just post this somewhere, either because I think it's a great idea or something I just haven't come across and I want to get some discussion about it. If that comes across as trolling, then yes, maybe I am. I haven't thought about this forum as somewhere to go to find personal support.

What's funny is until yesterday I had no idea about how the Reputation I had was arrived at. I never looked at my profile page. I think I was on the tail end of something from the other forums I was on.

One of them has now collapsed and I've just posted my last post because I am accused of trolling it. I did and I admit it but in the process the members set up a new forum of which I am a member. I couldn't get them to see how important it was that we have a dedicated forum where we weren't abused by trolls so I trolled a troll for nearly two years. He's still there, with one or two others and we now have a healthy and supportive forum.

I'm also made up that way and I don't necessarily like it. It's difficult having unpleasant home life situations that you don't want people to find out about and think badly about or wrongly.

Take global warming,for instance. I just googled an author who wrote about Maurice Strong to back up some of the stuff I posted here. You can look her up: Elaine Dewar. She wrote Cloak of Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dKnIFeiO1Y and in it she outlines how Strong was raised by anti-American parents, related to an American woman called Anita Strong who was a China supporter. Then I came across this video which is seems to sum up my views on global warming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srVeSmXFX-w

My dad worked on some of the Maurice Strong initiatives you'll hear about on the Dewar and that's how I ended up running errands for Strong.

I tie this in with Trump because if you read how Strong operated and the Canadian government operated, by throwing cash into foreign governments by way of investment in their oil industry, they you can see the idea of Trump being on the Russian payroll as in the realms of the "probably" or "maybe" rather than just some crackpot idea. My dad worked as the money man for Canadian government oil "aid" to Venezuela via providing of petroleum development technology, all set up by Strong.

I'll be interested to see what Trump's tax returns say about how he comes about his money.

If you listen to the Dewar interview, she mentions a real estate investment family involved in a big law suit. That was the Reichmann's suing Toronto Life magazine.

I also think that I have just discovered the sheer wealth of information on the internet and the ability one can now develop to find things out. I used to have to hang around libraries when I was young and read things but now you can get information from scientist from MIT directly out of their own mouths. That blows my mind even if half of it is junk. I think I have changed my mind on the JFK assassination and I wouldn't say anything about it because I keep finding things which completely undermine something I thought to be the case just yesterday. Part of this is just putting ideas out there. I don't know what's on this forum and what isn't so maybe I put things here which have a history and things have been thrashed out to a greater extent than I think. I don't think, however, that should stop anyone taking an interest in something "Dan Brownish" if one likes, for instance, just reading a "ripping yarn" if that is what it all turns out to be. I think people can get to het up about un-PC things here particularly religious ideas because it's junk fighting junk to a degree. My philosophy tutor at university said that part of the process was to break down your own preconceptions and to get to a point where you realized that you knew nothing, and then you were ready to learn. If people want to deconstruct what I say, it's ok. I'm not stuck on anything I post here. Anyhow, thanks for your comments.
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07-09-2016, 11:07 AM
RE: How I came to TTA. Is this funny?
(06-09-2016 12:06 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  Yeah, so, anyway, we had been asked to attend a meeting to discuss our family situation because of my wife's declining physical and mental health as she had been pretty much bed bound for several years and I had to take on her care and my son's and hold down a very demanding job with very little family help.

After you admitted to faking your own death on another forum, I'm having a hard time believing anything you say is true.
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07-09-2016, 11:16 AM
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So what you're saying is that you are a childish dick who wants to see what people say about you if they thought you were dead? How again is it that you don't seem to grasp that you aren't really respected?

Also, can god make a JAV porn so nasty even he wouldn't spank it? Consider

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07-09-2016, 11:17 AM
RE: How I came to TTA. Is this funny?
(07-09-2016 11:07 AM)pablo Wrote:  
(06-09-2016 12:06 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  Yeah, so, anyway, we had been asked to attend a meeting to discuss our family situation because of my wife's declining physical and mental health as she had been pretty much bed bound for several years and I had to take on her care and my son's and hold down a very demanding job with very little family help.

After you admitted to faking your own death on another forum, I'm having a hard time believing anything you say is true.

Me too. This guy could be telling the truth.... but it's more likely that he's trolling us for attention and sympathy. I'd rather not get emotionally invested in his story.
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07-09-2016, 11:25 AM
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(06-09-2016 12:12 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(06-09-2016 11:32 AM)Deltabravo Wrote:  Is there porn after death?

There is. But necro porn is pretty disturbing.

Islam....72 virgins......think of the possibilities Yes

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07-09-2016, 12:39 PM
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07-09-2016, 12:55 PM
RE: How I came to TTA. Is this funny?
Posing as your wife to make others think you actually died was a cruel prank that, at best, would only distract readers from the point you were trying to make. At worst, it caused some of the more empathetic forum users a great deal of emotional distress. I think it preposterous to think that anyone would actually believe that you were speaking from beyond the grave. So, it really was a poor addition to whole shenanigans. If you had just came in one day and started posting like you had died the day before and then went on with your farce, I think you'd have made your point and possibly even been appreciated for the cleverness of your approach. I'd have thought it funny had it been done that way.

As someone who is prone to inappropriate humor myself, especially when I am in a darker place mentally, I empathize with your situation. But, you've got to know when to admit "sorry, that was inappropriate" and move on. You can't always blame others for your jokes not going over well.

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07-09-2016, 01:40 PM
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(06-09-2016 11:32 AM)Deltabravo Wrote:  [...] I hatched this idea. I thought I would dramatically illustrate how stupid an idea it was that God was all-powerful etc., because he didn't even know how to use a computer by staging my own death and then reappearing in Heaven... and communicating with all my fellow posters from beyond the grave.

I'm assuming that you actually carried out this hoax. Personally, I find this sort of behaviour—especially anonymously on the net, and with people who may genuinely care about your life— totally unacceptable. I would never even entertain the idea, let alone carry it through. Yours is the sort of irresponsible posting to forums and blogs that potentially causes a lot of (unwarranted) concern from people who may be sincerely trying to help a fellow traveller through hard times.

Quote:I stopped posting for a while and then I left a post saying that I was my own wife, and that I had died and she had found my laptop open to the chat forum page.

Likewise, to willfully pretend to be another person—related in some meaningful personal way to yourself—is objectionable. And yet you opine that those sorts of people have "no sense of humour" when you expose your deception for what it was.

Quote:So, no response for a while, but then some posts came through saying how sorry they were, etc., the usual bullshit condolences from a bunch of hypocrites.

And yet you call these other people—who expressed their genuine sympathy to your "wife"—hypocrites, but without seeing your own hypocrisy?

Quote:Well, Jeeezus, you would think they might have got the joke.

Uh... no.... If somebody tells a forum that one of their members has died, then the least they can expect is honesty and sincerity from that person—not some silly kid making a joke of the whole thing. You really need to grow up, and learn something about the real world, and real people's emotions, and the harm joking about people's deaths can cause sensitive individuals.

Quote:One guy started hurling abuse at me, saying it was sick and twisted, how someone had actually died just like that, I should be ashamed of myself etc etc.

And quite rightly too. You should've been ashamed of yourself and your juvenile behaviour.

Quote:No matter how much I tried to explain just how funny it all was, no one though it was...

I'm gathering from this comment—trying to make the other members take the blame for your joke falling flat rather than yourself—that you're still not getting that what you did was just not on. End of story.

Quote:I dunno, I still think it was inspired...

And herein lies your problem. "Inspired"? Nope; your actions showed all the mental prowess of an 8-year-old kid.

Quote:Hmmm... I'll have to go now, I have a bit of a pain in my chest and a tingling sensa

And you're still making a play on the same silly type of stunt here?

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07-09-2016, 01:42 PM
RE: How I came to TTA. Is this funny?
(07-09-2016 12:55 PM)TurkeyBurner Wrote:  Posing as your wife to make others think you actually died was a cruel prank that, at best, would only distract readers from the point you were trying to make. At worst, it caused some of the more empathetic forum users a great deal of emotional distress. I think it preposterous to think that anyone would actually believe that you were speaking from beyond the grave. So, it really was a poor addition to whole shenanigans. If you had just came in one day and started posting like you had died the day before and then went on with your farce, I think you'd have made your point and possibly even been appreciated for the cleverness of your approach. I'd have thought it funny had it been done that way.

As someone who is prone to inappropriate humor myself, especially when I am in a darker place mentally, I empathize with your situation. But, you've got to know when to admit "sorry, that was inappropriate" and move on. You can't always blame others for your jokes not going over well.

Consider
"I think it preposterous to think that anyone would actually believe that you were speaking from beyond the grave."

I did it thinking that "atheists" weren't idiots. Once I began posting from the "other side" I wasn't thinking anyone would believe I was in the afterlife...

Sort of confirms some of my worst fears, that a lot of people on sites like this are so thin skinned they would feel somehow taken advantage of if someone made them look a little silly.

So, it's ok to call someone every disgusting name because they post about Judaism actually coming out of an Egyptian religion, which actually existed. But it's not okay to make a joke that involves someone inadvertently posting some hypocritical comments that they actually liked me after calling me every name in the book, and then feeling they'd been exposed as a hypocrite. Not that this was the reason. I didn't think anyone would 1. be hypocritical, and 2. be that thin skinned that their own hypocrisy would put them in a bad light.

But, I suppose you might find this funny because it overtly and, in your face, calls or the death of assholes, rather than letting assholes show themselves as such:



I didn't see you taking offence to people actually calling me names because I simply put forward an hypothesis about the role of an extinct cult in the first century. But you seem concerned for the emotional well-being of someone who isn't even on this thread and couldn't take a joke.

Nope, sorry, I don't get it.
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07-09-2016, 01:46 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2016 01:50 PM by Deltabravo.)
RE: How I came to TTA. Is this funny?
(07-09-2016 01:40 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
(06-09-2016 11:32 AM)Deltabravo Wrote:  [...] I hatched this idea. I thought I would dramatically illustrate how stupid an idea it was that God was all-powerful etc., because he didn't even know how to use a computer by staging my own death and then reappearing in Heaven... and communicating with all my fellow posters from beyond the grave.

I'm assuming that you actually carried out this hoax. Personally, I find this sort of behaviour—especially anonymously on the net, and with people who may genuinely care about your life— totally unacceptable. I would never even entertain the idea, let alone carry it through. Yours is the sort of irresponsible posting to forums and blogs that potentially causes a lot of (unwarranted) concern from people who may be sincerely trying to help a fellow traveller through hard times.

Quote:I stopped posting for a while and then I left a post saying that I was my own wife, and that I had died and she had found my laptop open to the chat forum page.

Likewise, to willfully pretend to be another person—related in some meaningful personal way to yourself—is objectionable. And yet you opine that those sorts of people have "no sense of humour" when you expose your deception for what it was.

Quote:So, no response for a while, but then some posts came through saying how sorry they were, etc., the usual bullshit condolences from a bunch of hypocrites.

And yet you call these other people—who expressed their genuine sympathy to your "wife"—hypocrites, but without seeing your own hypocrisy?

Quote:Well, Jeeezus, you would think they might have got the joke.

Uh... no.... If somebody tells a forum that one of their members has died, then the least they can expect is honesty and sincerity from that person—not some silly kid making a joke of the whole thing. You really need to grow up, and learn something about the real world, and real people's emotions, and the harm joking about people's deaths can cause sensitive individuals.

Quote:One guy started hurling abuse at me, saying it was sick and twisted, how someone had actually died just like that, I should be ashamed of myself etc etc.

And quite rightly too. You should've been ashamed of yourself and your juvenile behaviour.

Quote:No matter how much I tried to explain just how funny it all was, no one though it was...

I'm gathering from this comment—trying to make the other members take the blame for your joke falling flat rather than yourself—that you're still not getting that what you did was just not on. End of story.

Quote:I dunno, I still think it was inspired...

And herein lies your problem. "Inspired"? Nope; your actions showed all the mental prowess of an 8-year-old kid.

Quote:Hmmm... I'll have to go now, I have a bit of a pain in my chest and a tingling sensa

And you're still making a play on the same silly type of stunt here?

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My god, you actually parsed my post. Wowser.

A stunt? People cared about me? Sorry I just about spat my Coke onto my computer screen when I read your reply. Yeah, like they care here. I'm just a lot of squiggles on a screen and you, and most of my "friends" here wouldn't lose a moments sleep if I disappeared from this forum right now...along with every post I made, having been run over by a bus. Let's not get too "holier than thou",ok.
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