How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
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07-08-2017, 11:52 PM
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
Farseeker, I do hope you're going to reply to others of us that have replied to you. Also not finding atheists who agree with your stupid views doesn't make atheists wrong and you right. Atheism is not a political thing, it has nothing to do with marxism or whatever the fuck else. Many atheists are left-wing, but there are plenty of right-wing ones as well.

Let's focus on the question. From what I can tell, you are claiming that being an atheist turns you into some kind of evil person, i.e. you are arguing that the consequences of being an atheist are terrible therefore one should not be an atheist.

However that has absolutely zero bearing on the truth or falsehood of the statement "there is a God". If there is no God, then no amount of pleading that believing that there is one is better will change that basic fact.

There is no God.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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08-08-2017, 12:06 AM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2017 12:09 AM by FarSeeker.)
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(07-08-2017 10:03 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 09:33 PM)FarSeeker Wrote:  Is there really a difference.

Sure there is. Although one may lead to another.

Here's a little chart I knocked up based on Richard Shweder’s idea of three ethical or moral themes:

[snip]

As you can see, rejection of the Divinity stuff does not automatically lead to immorality or amorality.

[snip]


Why would there be an anti-Marxist forum on TTA?

Marx was right and Secular Humanists are pond-scum.

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Well, you fail to define "morality." I mean, the killing Hitchens advocates he calls moral. He agreed with Lenin....
Consider
And it sounds like you're agreeing with Hitchens.
So, one vote for killing all religious people?
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08-08-2017, 12:08 AM
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(08-08-2017 12:06 AM)FarSeeker Wrote:  So, one vote for killing all religious people?

Are you going to spend your time twisting people's words? You're a bit of a shit advert for your religion. Doesn't Jesus get mad if you tell lies?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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08-08-2017, 12:12 AM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2017 12:23 AM by FarSeeker.)
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(08-08-2017 12:08 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 12:06 AM)FarSeeker Wrote:  So, one vote for killing all religious people?

Are you going to spend your time twisting people's words? You're a bit of a shit advert for your religion. Doesn't Jesus get mad if you tell lies?

Well, the Atheists here are well enough versed in twisting people's words, but...

I was asking a question. You do understand the concept, right?
And BTW, I haven't received a clear answer.

"And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming."
So that's how Atheists reach them? Laugh out load
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08-08-2017, 12:21 AM
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(07-08-2017 11:52 PM)morondog Wrote:  Farseeker,
[snip]

Let's focus on the question. From what I can tell, you are claiming that being an atheist turns you into some kind of evil person,...
[snip]

There is no God.

Fast Answer (it's late):

1) Nope! That's your dogma kicking in.

2) Prove it.
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08-08-2017, 12:21 AM
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(08-08-2017 12:12 AM)FarSeeker Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 12:08 AM)morondog Wrote:  Are you going to spend your time twisting people's words? You're a bit of a shit advert for your religion. Doesn't Jesus get mad if you tell lies?

Well, the Atheists here are well enough versed in twisting people's words, but...

I was asking a question. You do understand the concept, right?
And BTW, I haven't received a clear answer.

"And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming."
So that's how Atheists reach them?

Do you like torturing and killing small animals? I think you must do, since you're religious.

^^ That's how you're coming across, dickhead.

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08-08-2017, 12:25 AM
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(08-08-2017 12:21 AM)FarSeeker Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 11:52 PM)morondog Wrote:  There is no God.

2) Prove it.

Ah how delighted you must be, an atheist who committed to an indefensible position! But you must be well aware that proving the non-existence of something is actually impossible. i.e. that my statement is impossible to prove. I will say as well that unless you can define what God is to some degree then even embarking on such a project is pointless.

Now please define your God and make a case that he's worth spending time on.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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08-08-2017, 12:26 AM
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(08-08-2017 12:06 AM)FarSeeker Wrote:  ...
Well, you fail to define "morality." I mean, the killing Hitchens advocates he calls moral. He agreed with Lenin....
Consider
And it sounds like you're agreeing with Hitchens.
So, one vote for killing all religious people?

Nope. Too messy.

My preference is for reversing the conversion process of old i.e. higher tax for believers aka a reverse Jizya . Then they'll soon get their minds right.

Failing that, sterilisation.

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I can define morality for you but given that you didn't even acknowledge what I gave you so far I doubt you have the ability to comprehend the more complex stuff like the 'evolution of contextual morality'.

But you can buy the book when I've finished it.

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08-08-2017, 12:28 AM
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(08-08-2017 12:21 AM)morondog Wrote:  Do you like torturing and killing small animals? I think you must do, since you're religious.

^^ That's how you're coming across, dickhead.

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For someone posting on "How-Religion-Destroys-a-Civilization" Thread
I don't think you have justification for complaining.
Besides:
https://www.google.com/search?site=&sour...Vdxy_6Euwo

Pick one, anyone.
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08-08-2017, 12:32 AM
RE: How Religion Destroys a Civilization (A Warning For The Present Day)
(08-08-2017 12:28 AM)FarSeeker Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 12:21 AM)morondog Wrote:  Do you like torturing and killing small animals? I think you must do, since you're religious.

^^ That's how you're coming across, dickhead.

Please reply to this post. (Post 41 in this thread)

For someone posting on "How-Religion-Destroys-a-Civilization" Thread
I don't think you have justification for complaining.
Besides:
https://www.google.com/search?site=&sour...Vdxy_6Euwo

Pick one, anyone.

So you can't answer yourself? I see the quality of your trolling is pretty shit. Much like your presentation of yourself.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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