How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
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21-09-2014, 11:13 AM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
(20-09-2014 08:50 PM)donlee600 Wrote:  it doesn't seem like a very valid argument, but it's kinda difficult to dig yourself out of

"I don't." would be my reply.

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21-09-2014, 01:01 PM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
(20-09-2014 09:05 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  ....this is one of the most stupid questions ever.

It is like trying to say, you have faith in something that is already proven to exist. It does not make any logical sense.

I would just say yes. Big Grin

Yes, I have faith in reason. Next topic. Rolleyes

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21-09-2014, 01:03 PM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
I mean, honestly, if you're at the point where reason is not on your side, then why don't you just give up?
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21-09-2014, 05:19 PM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
Ok, close your eyes and have faith that I will catch you when you fall back.

Crash !!
"WTF, I thought you were going to catch me."

My bad. Lets try that faith thing again.

Crash !!
"Damn, that really hurt. Why didn't you catch me ?"

I'm sorry. One more time. Fill your mind with faith that I'll catch you.

"No fucking way"
What reason do you have for not having faith in this process ?

"Each time I fell, you didn't catch me. I have reason to believe that if we repeat this you will continue to not catch me."

So, you observed reality and used reason to predict a future outcome. Where did faith lead you ?

"It lead me to cracking my head on the ground twice."

Where did reason lead you ?

"Reason kept me from falling to the ground and hurting my head."

I'm glad we had this talk

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21-09-2014, 09:06 PM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
(21-09-2014 01:01 PM)Deidre32 Wrote:  
(20-09-2014 09:05 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  ....this is one of the most stupid questions ever.

It is like trying to say, you have faith in something that is already proven to exist. It does not make any logical sense.

I would just say yes. Big Grin

Yes, I have faith in reason. Next topic. Rolleyes
Logic and reason are MY presuppositions. Your turn!

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25-09-2014, 05:42 PM
Re: RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
(21-09-2014 05:19 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Ok, close your eyes and have faith that I will catch you when you fall back.

Crash !!
"WTF, I thought you were going to catch me."

My bad. Lets try that faith thing again.

Crash !!
"Damn, that really hurt. Why didn't you catch me ?"

I'm sorry. One more time. Fill your mind with faith that I'll catch you.

"No fucking way"
What reason do you have for not having faith in this process ?

"Each time I fell, you didn't catch me. I have reason to believe that if we repeat this you will continue to not catch me."

So, you observed reality and used reason to predict a future outcome. Where did faith lead you ?

"It lead me to cracking my head on the ground twice."

Where did reason lead you ?

"Reason kept me from falling to the ground and hurting my head."

I'm glad we had this talk
I think we should all take a second and give a big cheers to reason. It's what keeps us safe, secure, happy, and fulfilled. TO REASON!

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25-09-2014, 11:21 PM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
Reason is inductive reasoning. We assume it works. Its an axiom

Faith in the bible is not using reason, its just faith based on nothing.

“Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.

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26-09-2014, 06:06 AM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
(20-09-2014 08:50 PM)donlee600 Wrote:  it doesn't seem like a very valid argument, but it's kinda difficult to dig yourself out of

It's just a refuge in solipsism they're attempting to try and make their unfounded assertions look less ridiculous.

You tell them "people stopped being blown away by the fact that we might actually be in the Matrix fifteen years ago".
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26-09-2014, 06:13 AM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
Good, it's a pretty well tested method by now wouldn't you say

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26-09-2014, 06:18 AM
RE: How do I respond to "You have faith in reason"?
I'd say "I pity you. There's no known cure for stupid. I will pray for you though".
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