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31-05-2015, 10:43 PM
How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
I was sitting here at my desk and a thought occurred to me.

How do creationists explain the evolution of antibiotic resistant bacteria?

We are seeing evolution in action as the few bacteria that had the mutation to survive the antibiotics are surviving via natural selection processes.

And if they admit micro-evolution is occurring but not macro-evolution then they are arguing from personal incredulity. As micro-evolution and macro-evolution are just terms trying to split evolution out when that is not how it works(from what I understand). Using their terms you end up with, If enough "micro-evolutions" happen you end up with "macro-evolution"

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31-05-2015, 10:50 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
Simple.

God creates them to test us.

It's all part of his divine plan.

Because he loves us.

Apparently.

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31-05-2015, 10:51 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
They would claim that it's not evolution because they are still bacteria "kind."

They won't be happy until they see a rock give birth to a dog.

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31-05-2015, 10:51 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
(31-05-2015 10:43 PM)Worom Wrote:  I was sitting here at my desk and a thought occurred to me.

How do creationists explain the evolution of antibiotic resistant bacteria?

We are seeing evolution in action as the few bacteria that had the mutation to survive the antibiotics are surviving via natural selection processes.

And if they admit micro-evolution is occurring but not macro-evolution then they are arguing from personal incredulity. As micro-evolution and macro-evolution are just terms trying to split evolution out when that is not how it works(from what I understand). Using their terms you end up with, If enough "micro-evolutions" happen you end up with "macro-evolution"

They believe in that kind of evolution, they don't believe in the long term evolution...to them they think that that virus will "evolve" into a fly or something. Facepalm


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31-05-2015, 10:52 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
(31-05-2015 10:50 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Simple.

God creates them to test us.

It's all part of his divine plan.

Because he loves us.

Apparently.

Dodgy

Don't forget "free will" and "we live in a fallen world."

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31-05-2015, 10:54 PM (This post was last modified: 31-05-2015 11:00 PM by Worom.)
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
(31-05-2015 10:50 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Simple.

God creates them to test us.

It's all part of his divine plan.

Because he loves us.

Apparently.

Dodgy

If by loves us you mean loves to kill us then I would agree lol Tongue

The next argument I would go based on that is, how can a god that is perfectly good create something that kills us, when god defined murder as bad?
Although somehow I think they would say something along the lines of anything god does is good even if it's contradictory Facepalm

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31-05-2015, 11:09 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
(31-05-2015 10:43 PM)Worom Wrote:  I was sitting here at my desk and a thought occurred to me.

How do creationists explain the evolution of antibiotic resistant bacteria?

We are seeing evolution in action as the few bacteria that had the mutation to survive the antibiotics are surviving via natural selection processes.

And if they admit micro-evolution is occurring but not macro-evolution then they are arguing from personal incredulity. As micro-evolution and macro-evolution are just terms trying to split evolution out when that is not how it works(from what I understand). Using their terms you end up with, If enough "micro-evolutions" happen you end up with "macro-evolution"

They don't.

They don't deal with it. They say, yeah that's "micro-evolution", not macro. When you press them on the difference, "macro" is a "kind of thing" becoming a different "kind of thing". If the bacteria aren't becoming dolphins, well that's not macro.

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31-05-2015, 11:11 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
(31-05-2015 10:54 PM)Worom Wrote:  
(31-05-2015 10:50 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Simple.

God creates them to test us.

It's all part of his divine plan.

Because he loves us.

Apparently.

Dodgy

If by loves us you mean loves to kill us then I would agree lol Tongue

The next argument I would go based on that is, how can a god that is perfectly good create something that kills us, when god defined murder as bad?

That leads to a sort of "Divine Command dichotomy": "Is something good (or bad) because god said it is, or did god say it is because it is?"

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31-05-2015, 11:11 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
They don't explain it, they avoid it like the plague.
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31-05-2015, 11:13 PM
RE: How do creationists explain antibiotic resistant "super bugs"
(31-05-2015 10:54 PM)Worom Wrote:  ...

The next argument I would go based on that is, how can a god that is perfectly good create something that kills us, when god defined murder as bad?
Although somehow I think they would say something along the lines of anything god does is good even if it's contradictory Facepalm

I think you just answered your own question. Yes

But did I miss the bit where god defined murder as bad?

If you are talking about one of the 10 commandments (the ones that Moses deleted in a hissy fit), then that was about Jews not murdering other Jews.

Generally, god would appear to be in favour of genocide.

The superbugs are really his chosen people.

Dodgy

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