How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
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26-02-2012, 10:03 PM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
(26-02-2012 10:59 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(26-02-2012 10:40 AM)lucradis Wrote:  I'd kill him. Would it be easy? No. Would I do it? Yes. Would I cut his throat? Not likely, if you've ever seen that happen its pretty fucked and I'd be more likely to do it another way.

Like what? Bore him to death with your jokes?


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I'd have to agree. Zat, if you just asked, would I be able to kill a tied up unarmed man, then the answer is no. But in this war time scenario, soldier against soldier, to save the lives of my buddies? Most likely.

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29-02-2012, 08:17 AM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
(26-02-2012 08:12 PM)bemore Wrote:  You said it was based on a true story Zat........so what did they do in the end???

Sorry bemore, I just noticed your question.

Not one of them could do it. They argued among themselves, there were several aborted decisions and eventually they got captured.
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29-02-2012, 09:18 PM (This post was last modified: 29-02-2012 09:25 PM by mysticjbyrd.)
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
The options don't really make sense, because the situations makes no sense. Why would you need to kill the guy? How would he know which way you went?

(26-02-2012 09:46 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Knock him the fuck out, gag 'im an screw; what I calculate from my Monday morning armchair.

I agree. Gag him, blindfold him, and knock his ass out.

(29-02-2012 08:17 AM)Zat Wrote:  
(26-02-2012 08:12 PM)bemore Wrote:  You said it was based on a true story Zat........so what did they do in the end???

Sorry bemore, I just noticed your question.

Not one of them could do it. They argued among themselves, there were several aborted decisions and eventually they got captured.

If this actually happened as you described, then I am thinking these men decided to get captured. The story just isn't plausible.
Maybe being a PoW was a better option to them than fighting.
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29-02-2012, 10:53 PM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
(29-02-2012 08:17 AM)Zat Wrote:  
(26-02-2012 08:12 PM)bemore Wrote:  You said it was based on a true story Zat........so what did they do in the end???

Sorry bemore, I just noticed your question.

Not one of them could do it. They argued among themselves, there were several aborted decisions and eventually they got captured.

Did any survive their capture?

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01-03-2012, 04:00 AM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
(29-02-2012 10:53 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(29-02-2012 08:17 AM)Zat Wrote:  
(26-02-2012 08:12 PM)bemore Wrote:  You said it was based on a true story Zat........so what did they do in the end???

Sorry bemore, I just noticed your question.

Not one of them could do it. They argued among themselves, there were several aborted decisions and eventually they got captured.

Did any survive their capture?

I would assume so, otherwise there wouldnt be a story.
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01-03-2012, 06:08 AM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
Hmmm... Knocking him out surely seems like the ethical thing to do, but again, watching from a distance, not when you're actually there.

Beating him unconscious is noisy and inhumane. You're pretty much left with a strangle hold or a hard blow at the back of the head. If I try a strangle hold, he is very likely to play unconscious way sooner than he actually feels the effect. If I overdo it, I choke him to death. AND he wakes up quickly enough from a strangle knock out.

Blow to the head, same thing: Unless I crush his skull in, I can't be sure that he's really out. How hard DO you have to hit a guy with the butt of your gun to knock him out without killing him? And did you see any kind of fighting sports? It doesn't take all that long to wake up from a knock out.

At gunpoint he won't dare to scream through his nose, but as soon as we leave him he will certainly start. If he's within hearing distance of his mates, he has to go. I would go with choke to death or break the neck with a sudden and strong twist of his head. I prefer the second because he doesn't need to see it coming. If you absolutely must be messy, slit throat, stab to the heart or stab at the back of the neck (to cut the spinal cord) are the most obvious and painless solutions (assuming that you don't miss the first blow and you hit hard enough). Again, the most merciful way is the fastest one that he doesn't see coming. A machete or an ax would destroy enough of the brain in one blow to make death sudden and hopefully before he feels too much of it.

Either way, surrender now or do what needs to be done. If you wait long enough, the decision will make itself and not in your favor.

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01-03-2012, 07:29 AM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
(29-02-2012 10:53 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Did any survive their capture?

They all did.

I read the story (a very long time ago) in the autobiography of one of the soldiers.

The event took place in France, days after D-Day. The soldiers were American and the enemy they captured was German. He was their age (19-22) and looked like them, except for the uniform. They were all scared, captors and captive alike. They recognized their common humanity and could not butcher an unarmed man. They hesitated too long and were found by another German unit on the next day.

I forgot both the title and the Author's name -- it was decades ago I read it.

I'll see if I can find a link to the full story
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02-03-2012, 11:52 PM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
What a crap situation, you’d have to kill him right off when your blood was up or you never would I spose.
I don’t think I could kill someone in cold blood, I doubt I could kill anyone regardless though…
I mean, (discounting psychological issues) how angry or scared would you have to be?

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08-03-2012, 09:34 AM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
War is war. There's very little room for compassion unfortunately.

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08-03-2012, 09:39 AM
RE: How hard can it be to kill an unarmed person?
In a time of war I don't have a problem with killing someone who has apparently volunteered to die for his country. I woudln't cut his throat but I might choke him out.

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