How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
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27-07-2016, 01:39 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
(27-07-2016 10:05 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(27-07-2016 09:42 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  The same guy responsible for the "Chick Tracts"?

Yes, he did publish numerous abbreviated scholarly pamphlets for lay masses, informing them of the history of the Catholic Church, Islam, and the data indicating the dangers of alcohol consumption and rock music.

Except he basically lied about just about everything he made up.

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27-07-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
Most humans worldwide in antiquity, even in Asia and the Orient and India, most people that far back in antiquity, outside the ruling family and warrior class, most people were illiterate. Literacy in the world really didn't take off worldwide until the industrial revolution. Certainly you can find pockets in antiquity yes, but for the majority of the world, no.

Even now out of our 7 billion worldwide, and even in America there are functionally illiterate.

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27-07-2016, 02:06 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
(27-07-2016 01:46 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  Most humans worldwide in antiquity, even in Asia and the Orient and India, most people that far back in antiquity, outside the ruling family and warrior class, most people were illiterate. Literacy in the world really didn't take off worldwide until the industrial revolution. Certainly you can find pockets in antiquity yes, but for the majority of the world, no.

Even now out of our 7 billion worldwide, and even in America there are functionally illiterate.

That's why scribes drove Escalades. Smartass
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27-07-2016, 02:18 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
Damn, I'm going blind. I've been reading the thread title for 5 minutes straight thinking it said punched - not preached. >.>.

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27-07-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
(27-07-2016 01:46 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  Most humans worldwide in antiquity, even in Asia and the Orient and India, most people that far back in antiquity, outside the ruling family and warrior class, most people were illiterate. Literacy in the world really didn't take off worldwide until the industrial revolution. Certainly you can find pockets in antiquity yes, but for the majority of the world, no.

Even now out of our 7 billion worldwide, and even in America there are functionally illiterate.

50 % of Americans cannot answer the question : "Around what celestial object does the Earth revolve ?"

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27-07-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
(27-07-2016 11:03 AM)Aliza Wrote:  According to the Jews, people did know of this guy, he had family that were known and he had developed somewhat of a reputation in the community.

Not a good one.

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27-07-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
(27-07-2016 10:35 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(27-07-2016 10:17 AM)seoq Wrote:  So with only a 3% literacy rate who were the members of the upper class (and apparent heretics) who were willing to write, publish, and disperse the material pertaining to Jesus' supposed ministry?

There was no publishing. Stories were transmitted orally. Letters were written by the few literates. Some books were written, but any copying was by hand. No printing presses.

Also, letters were usually written on clay or wax tablets protected by sheets of wood. The recipient would read the letter, smooth out the wax/clay, then write the return letter back. Permanent writing surfaces like paper or parchment were expensive.

Additionally, the early Christians were certain that jesus would return in their lifetime. It was only when that didn't happen that they realized they would need to write stuff down.

In regards to literacy being forbidden, I don't recall reading that. It was my understanding that most people were too busy and too poor to have the time and money to get an education.

There was no need for a conspiracy. You could walk into a town, proclaim yourself a prophet/apostle/disciple/whatever and all you needed to back it up was charisma. At least one of the letters in the NT talks about false prophets.

Thank you for your response, Fatbaldhobbit. It put a lot into context for me.

The last part you wrote reminded me of the 31st saying in the Gospel of Thomas.

31. Jesus said, "No prophet is welcome on his home turf; doctors don't cure those who know them."

Hmm. Now why would that be?

Something similar is found in Luke 4:24 and it reads...
"Truly I tell you," he continued, "no prophet is accepted in his hometown.

I find these two pieces of writing a little bit more interesting now. Thank you once again, Fatbaldhobbit.
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27-07-2016, 04:22 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
(27-07-2016 02:06 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(27-07-2016 01:46 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  Most humans worldwide in antiquity, even in Asia and the Orient and India, most people that far back in antiquity, outside the ruling family and warrior class, most people were illiterate. Literacy in the world really didn't take off worldwide until the industrial revolution. Certainly you can find pockets in antiquity yes, but for the majority of the world, no.

Even now out of our 7 billion worldwide, and even in America there are functionally illiterate.

That's why scribes drove Escalades. Smartass

And why Jesus and all his disciples were in one accord.
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27-07-2016, 05:23 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
Quote:As far as I know, Jews have generally been literate throughout our history.


Jewish peasants were no more literate than any other peasants anywhere.

Literacy is an expensive skill to acquire and of no use to a farmer who, if he could read, could never have afforded to buy a book to practice that skill. This is a subsistence economy and people worked their asses off during daylight hours and sure as hell did not burn lamps at night so they could read the fucking bible. They used the night for more important activities - like sleeping and screwing.

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27-07-2016, 05:43 PM
RE: How literate was the area Jesus supposedly preached in?
(27-07-2016 04:22 PM)Born Again Pagan Wrote:  
(27-07-2016 02:06 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  That's why scribes drove Escalades. Smartass

And why Jesus and all his disciples were in one accord.
They could have come in a Hummer. Consider
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