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09-03-2016, 09:43 AM
RE: How long is a day?
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I know others are going to pile in on this but I'm kind of hoping for a first off the bat post....

(09-03-2016 09:35 AM)theophilus Wrote:  ..... but the flood was the result of a catastrophe that upset the normal order of events.

Citation please?
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09-03-2016, 09:47 AM
RE: How long is a day?
(09-03-2016 09:35 AM)theophilus Wrote:  The earth's rotational speed is slowing now, but the flood was the result of a catastrophe that upset the normal order of events.

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There is no evidence of a global flood; the biblical story is preposterous from start to finish. There is no evidence that the Earth's rotation used to be slower and then sped up and no mechanism to explain how that could have happened. It is all wishful thinking to support a myth by any means possible.

Apologetics are typically bad but this is just pathetic.

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09-03-2016, 01:39 PM
RE: How long is a day?
(09-03-2016 09:35 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 10:44 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Except that the earth hasn't sped up its rotation, it has been slowing very gradually. Days would have been shorter the further back you go, not longer. It also would never explain a day being billions of years long or the order of events described being wrong. YEC is simply nonsensical from every standpoint.

The earth's rotational speed is slowing now, but the flood was the result of a catastrophe that upset the normal order of events.

(08-03-2016 11:04 AM)cjlr Wrote:  I don't think arguing for light without light sources is exactly helping you here.

The sources of light existed. They just couldn't be seen until the fourth day.

Genesis 1:16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth.

The stars gave light to the earth immediately, although the closest star, Alpha Centauri, is 4.3 light years away. So the very first star light would have taken 4.3 years to reach earth. The light we see from the Andromeda Galaxy takes 2.2 million years to reach earth, which also debunks the argument that the earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old.

The flood of the biblical proportions, which according to biblical tradition timelines puts it at 2348ish BCE...didn't occur.

read evidence HERE:

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid674871

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09-03-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: How long is a day?
(09-03-2016 09:35 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 10:44 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Except that the earth hasn't sped up its rotation, it has been slowing very gradually. Days would have been shorter the further back you go, not longer. It also would never explain a day being billions of years long or the order of events described being wrong. YEC is simply nonsensical from every standpoint.

The earth's rotational speed is slowing now, but the flood was the result of a catastrophe that upset the normal order of events.

(08-03-2016 11:04 AM)cjlr Wrote:  I don't think arguing for light without light sources is exactly helping you here.

The sources of light existed. They just couldn't be seen until the fourth day.

You can't use the Bible as a source to explain any scientific phenomena, you have to use scientific research and empirical evidence. You are on an atheist forum, we don't give the Bible any credence here, we only use scientific methods so you need to do the same. If we go with what the Bible says happened we may as well use any book ever written whether it was fiction or not so please for everyone involved use facts and we can have a real conversation. Also we could easily use the Bible to discount anything you say as well, many Christians can't even decide if the great Pyramids of Giza were built before or after the flood so until your own followers can decide what the Bible has to say about important historical events there's no point in bringing it up until you have proof.

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09-03-2016, 04:39 PM
RE: How long is a day?
(09-03-2016 09:35 AM)theophilus Wrote:  The earth's rotational speed is slowing now, but the flood was the result of a catastrophe that upset the normal order of events.

So the Earth's rotational speed was increasing prior to the flood?

Well, I'll admit. I've never seen anyone arguing this particular brand of nonsense before.

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09-03-2016, 04:45 PM
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(08-03-2016 10:32 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  They have an awful track record of noting what a "day" was.

If Jesus, say died on friday afternoon or even whenever during that day... then arose & wasn't there in the tomb Sunday morning when checked. That in no way was a period of 3 days.

It's a period of less than 48 hours... yet they call it 3 days.

Actually they call it three days and three nights which is further apart. Have you ever gone on a cruise? The three day cruise starts on Friday evening and gets back in on Sunday morning. Maybe JC was on a cruise that week end! But they call that a three day and 2 nite cruise.
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09-03-2016, 05:15 PM
RE: How long is a day?
A day is as long as it needs to be, defined however it needs to be,
to make your bullshit fairy stories seem like they could be real.
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09-03-2016, 05:26 PM
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(09-03-2016 04:45 PM)DerFish Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 10:32 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  They have an awful track record of noting what a "day" was.

If Jesus, say died on friday afternoon or even whenever during that day... then arose & wasn't there in the tomb Sunday morning when checked. That in no way was a period of 3 days.

It's a period of less than 48 hours... yet they call it 3 days.

Actually they call it three days and three nights which is further apart. Have you ever gone on a cruise? The three day cruise starts on Friday evening and gets back in on Sunday morning. Maybe JC was on a cruise that week end! But they call that a three day and 2 nite cruise.

Only the innumerate do so. They misinterpret 1 Corinthian 15:4 "...hat he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
First Day: Friday - crucified
Second Day: Saturday - hangin' out in Hell
Third Day: Sunday - resurrection
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09-03-2016, 05:46 PM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2016 05:58 PM by TheInquisition.)
RE: How long is a day?
(09-03-2016 09:35 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 10:44 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Except that the earth hasn't sped up its rotation, it has been slowing very gradually. Days would have been shorter the further back you go, not longer. It also would never explain a day being billions of years long or the order of events described being wrong. YEC is simply nonsensical from every standpoint.

The earth's rotational speed is slowing now, but the flood was the result of a catastrophe that upset the normal order of events.

(08-03-2016 11:04 AM)cjlr Wrote:  I don't think arguing for light without light sources is exactly helping you here.

The sources of light existed. They just couldn't be seen until the fourth day.

There is so much ignorance packed into the first two chapters in Genesis that it's difficult to even know where to begin. How about the beginning?

First God creates the Earth, then God said "let there be light". The Earth didn't exist before light, you not only insult our intelligence to think we would buy into this nonsense, you insult yourself and the entire religion that this nonsense is based upon.

The only recourse for a creationist is to proclaim the entire Genesis myth as metaphorical to maintain any sense of credibility.

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09-03-2016, 05:55 PM
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(09-03-2016 05:26 PM)Machias Wrote:  
(09-03-2016 04:45 PM)DerFish Wrote:  Actually they call it three days and three nights which is further apart. Have you ever gone on a cruise? The three day cruise starts on Friday evening and gets back in on Sunday morning. Maybe JC was on a cruise that week end! But they call that a three day and 2 nite cruise.

Only the innumerate do so. They misinterpret 1 Corinthian 15:4 "...hat he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
First Day: Friday - crucified
Second Day: Saturday - hangin' out in Hell
Third Day: Sunday - resurrection

Let's check. From Friday 6:00pm to Saturday 6:00pm 24 hours and from Saturday 6:00pm to Sunday sunrise another 12 hours. Jesus was in the tomb 36 hours max.

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