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28-11-2013, 08:33 PM
"How to Share the Gospel With an Atheist" (title of linked article)
Here is the algorithm:

http://pastors.com/how-to-share-the-gosp...n-atheist/

Organized as five numbered points.

Here they are with my comments (if interested, click the link for their full explanation of each).

1. Don’t be shocked and do ask tons of questions.

Good sense. Get away from being horrified before you try to win someone over to anything, really.

2. Listen deeply for the real “why.”

Basic good salesmanship. You have presumably reached the point of having a conversation. Be a good listener and don't assume you know the objections ahead of time. It works for selling life insurance. So too with Jesus.

3. Connect relationally.

Really an extension of the previous point. Have (or at least show) empathy.

4. Assume that, down deep inside, they do believe in God.

Uh oh ... Shocking

5. Frame the gospel as a love story (that just happens to be true.)

Rolleyes


I wonder who actually gets converted by this approach (if any)?

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28-11-2013, 09:05 PM
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Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.” 2 Timothy 2:23-26

Huh..if it wasn't for this "trap of the devil" I might of actually liked this quote.

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28-11-2013, 09:15 PM
RE: "How to Share the Gospel With an Atheist" (title of linked article)
What? How does number 4 help at all? I'm annoyed by that. >:|
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28-11-2013, 10:40 PM
RE: "How to Share the Gospel With an Atheist" (title of linked article)
3. Simply isn't possible unless they've finally come up with an answer for the Problem of Evil after 2000+ years.

4. Nothing makes an ass out of you and me more than when you assume things.

5. Lie in the name of Jesus, since most relationships end in lies it seems like a logical place to start.

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28-11-2013, 11:02 PM
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Seems a better approach than most people - I just watched "Robinson Crusoe" (the one from the 70s) and had to laugh hysterically at the scene where he tries to teach Friday about God.
Friday asks for proof of God, and Crusoe hands him the Bible. Friday says "There is no God here." Crusoe tells him if he doesn't believe he will burn in hell. Friday's response is "I don't like you or your God." Such wonderful logic from a uncivilized 'savage.'


Unfortunately, that's about the best stock approach most Christians have. "Believe!!!! Or... HELL!!!L!L!L!" Evil_monster

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it- not even if I have said it- unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. - Buddha
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29-11-2013, 01:31 AM
RE: "How to Share the Gospel With an Atheist" (title of linked article)
Thanks for the laugh, Abdul.

Assume they believe in God...ya know, down deep inside. Laughat

The Bible is a love story! Ohmy

If you don't bow down and praise the lord, God for every measly second of miserable existence that's all your fault he will send to to be consumed by flames for an eternity. A new kind of love story.

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29-11-2013, 01:56 AM
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(29-11-2013 01:31 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  A new kind of love story.

Sounds kinky... Drinking Beverage

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29-11-2013, 07:01 AM
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(28-11-2013 09:15 PM)Colourcraze Wrote:  What? How does number 4 help at all? I'm annoyed by that. >:|

I think they cannot comprehend that a sane person could really not believe.

Call #4 on the list a sort of confirmation bias, like so: The subjective phenomenon of being "angry with God" really exists and those who feel that might call themselves atheists. Especially they might very loudly call their former selves atheists after returning to the fold.

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29-11-2013, 07:04 AM
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It is a love story:

God loved the world so much that He had to shed innocent blood to make up for what your original ancestors did.

And if you don't buy that, He'll torture you forever. So accept His love. Heart

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29-11-2013, 07:11 AM
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I have been extremely lucky in my atheism compared to many folks here.

I had an atheist upbringing and I have not been personally harmed by religion. Only whatever harm spreads itself over society, and in a not heavily religious cultural environment. That is, except for a short self inflicted youthful episode of being mixed up with religion (call it ideological wild oats).

So I'm not even defensive about the "angry with God" thing the way a recovering ex-fundy would be.

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