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21-04-2016, 07:33 AM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 07:31 AM)CosmicRaven Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 07:27 AM)Banjo Wrote:  Fixed.

And proven. Smile

Thanks XD

Mi plessare. Wink

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21-04-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
Given your writing ability, and your complaints about math, I suspect this:

Quote:Dyscalculia is a brain-based condition that makes it hard to make sense of numbers and math concepts. Some kids with dyscalculia can’t grasp basic number concepts. They work hard to learn and memorize basic number facts. They may know what to do in math class but don’t understand why they’re doing it. In other words, they miss the logic behind it.

Other kids understand the logic behind the math but aren’t sure how and when to apply their knowledge to solving problems.

Find out more: https://www.understood.org/en/learning-a...yscalculia

If you have this, you are in good company. It has nothing to do with your intelligence and you will lead a normal life with plenty of opportunity to excel.

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21-04-2016, 09:27 AM
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Well that was some depressing reading Undecided

OP you're comparing yourself to other people all the time. Who cares what other people think or how intelligent they are? That's their life. You live your life.

Look, if you were the only person in the world, would you give a shit that you didn't understand maths? So why does adding a few billion other people suddenly make you insecure?

Besides which IMO not understanding maths is rarely a symptom of lack of intelligence, more a symptom of bad experiences with teachers and/or a condition such as others have already suggested, such as discalculia.

You clearly want to be some kinda intellectual type. Well, there's two things. Firstly, you already (as others have pointed out) spell and write in an articulate fashion. The raw material is there. Secondly, if you get nowhere with studying then it's not necessarily *your brain* that sucks, you might just be using shitty study methods. Go to coursera.org, type "Learning how to learn" in the search box and do the course.

Lastly, sometimes we don't get what we want. You might just not be able to achieve what your goal is, that's how life is and it's not cool but there's fuck all anyone can do about it. So what? Is life only meaningful if you're some kind of whizkid who's acknowleged by your peers? What about just living your life and enjoying it? Is that so hard to do? What about instead of being impatient for the *result* of all that studying you're doing, you enjoy the *journey*. Study shit because it interests you, not because you want to be known as a guru.

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21-04-2016, 10:50 AM
How to overcome stupidity?
I'm going to say this, and parts will make you hate me.

I've attempted suicide. Despite what the movies and TV show, it rarely goes as well and as peaceful as they show. It's not peaceful, and there are pretty good odds it won't happen right. If you shoot yourself, you're running the risk of losing a huge part of your face or being paralyzed or partially or completely blind.

You're not stupid. You're just not good at certain things. I can do most math in my head but many other things make no sense to me. I have had brain and spinal damage so mine probably don't work quite right anyway.

I'm not a developmental specialist but it sounds more like you might have an undiagnosed learning disability. It's sort of a Murphy's Law thing. The thing you want to be good at is hard, but the thing you're good at is useless or silly.

This is going to sound like an old man sentence: Your brain is just now finishing forming. You need help. I'm not saying this to be mean or tossing you away. I'm saying this as someone who has fighting mental illness for longer than you've been alive. I may never get much better, but I want you to get help now. You won't be better tomorrow or probably even next year.

I won't lie to you. Fuck platitudes. No inspirational quotes. Whether you have mental illness or going through a rough time, you need professional help. It is going to suck if you don't. It's going to suck if you do. But I don't want you to fight harder than you have to.
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21-04-2016, 11:12 AM
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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/south-ca...as-coming/

I believe there are stupid pills available. How is it no one uses them ?

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21-04-2016, 11:19 AM
 
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
I do not write well. I require remediation in that as well. What I am mainly saying is that I'm slow. Despite wanting to be sharp and intellectual, I'm not even on par with the least intelligent people around me. Evidence of this is everywhere, from my daily experiences to grades. Other people seem to have a much easier time analyzing and understanding complex things than I do. Even the dumbest blonde chicks I know are sharper than me. The ones who only think about shopping and doing their nails know more about history, science, economics, and politics than I do. Whenever there is a complex issue brought up at a get together, everyone else can hold their own in the conversation. But I am always floundering. I just wonder where these people learn their information so quickly and efficiently because I spend hours pouring over these topics and seem to be lagging behind in my understanding and analysis of them.

I can understand what other intellectual people, like Sam Harris, are saying and repeat or reinterpret their ideas and analyses, but when it comes to analyzing new complex issues I have not yet been presented with, I just cannot do it. But even the dumbest people around me have an easy time understanding these things effectively. I just get lost and overwhelmed.

Mind you, I come from the south and everyone around me are conservative religious folk. There are also pieces of evidence for this that I cannot really explain. For instance, last night a girl I went to school with, who was notorious for being an air-headed cheerleader, posted a status to facebook about her stances on the whole 'transgender bathroom' issue. She wrote a very coherent, eloquent post with some very well-formed and worded arguments. I was caught in yet another scenario where I did not know the subject matter or the going arguments on either side. I honestly did not know what the whole issue was over. Here was an area where she was much more well-versed and understood on a subject matter that someone like her should have been coming to me for advice on. I could have not wrote such a good post or argument even if I had taken the time study it and understand it. When anti-intellectual people can school you without much time or effort, its just time to give up and admit you are stupid. I am always behind the curve. I should be ahead of it, and I try to be ahead of it, but I'm ineffective and stupid. I only sound smart when I am speaking on things I already understand (things that have taken me years to study about). But I am a very poor original thinker and analyzer of situations and arguments.

That's the only way I know to explain it. Reading back through what I wrote in this post I can see that I did not really communicate my point effectively. Most of you are still not going to understand what I'm talking about.
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21-04-2016, 11:32 AM
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(21-04-2016 11:19 AM)Tampitump Wrote:  I do not write well. I require remediation in that as well. What I am mainly saying is that I'm slow. Despite wanting to be sharp and intellectual, I'm not even on par with the least intelligent people around me. Evidence of this is everywhere, from my daily experiences to grades. Other people seem to have a much easier time analyzing and understanding complex things than I do. Even the dumbest blonde chicks I know are sharper than me. The ones who only think about shopping and doing their nails know more about history, science, economics, and politics than I do. Whenever there is a complex issue brought up at a get together, everyone else can hold their own in the conversation. But I am always floundering. I just wonder where these people learn their information so quickly and efficiently because I spend hours pouring over these topics and seem to be lagging behind in my understanding and analysis of them.

I can understand what other intellectual people, like Sam Harris, are saying and repeat or reinterpret their ideas and analyses, but when it comes to analyzing new complex issues I have not yet been presented with, I just cannot do it. But even the dumbest people around me have an easy time understanding these things effectively. I just get lost and overwhelmed.

Mind you, I come from the south and everyone around me are conservative religious folk. There are also pieces of evidence for this that I cannot really explain. For instance, last night a girl I went to school with, who was notorious for being an air-headed cheerleader, posted a status to facebook about her stances on the whole 'transgender bathroom' issue. She wrote a very coherent, eloquent post with some very well-formed and worded arguments. I was caught in yet another scenario where I did not know the subject matter or the going arguments on either side. I honestly did not know what the whole issue was over. Here was an area where she was much more well-versed and understood on a subject matter that someone like her should have been coming to me for advice on. I could have not wrote such a good post or argument even if I had taken the time study it and understand it. When anti-intellectual people can school you without much time or effort, its just time to give up and admit you are stupid. I am always behind the curve. I should be ahead of it, and I try to be ahead of it, but I'm ineffective and stupid. I only sound smart when I am speaking on things I already understand (things that have taken me years to study about). But I am a very poor original thinker and analyzer of situations and arguments.

That's the only way I know to explain it. Reading back through what I wrote in this post I can see that I did not really communicate my point effectively. Most of you are still not going to understand what I'm talking about.

Great. What did you expect anyone here to do about this ?

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21-04-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 11:19 AM)Tampitump Wrote:  I do not write well. I require remediation in that as well. What I am mainly saying is that I'm slow. Despite wanting to be sharp and intellectual, I'm not even on par with the least intelligent people around me. Evidence of this is everywhere, from my daily experiences to grades. Other people seem to have a much easier time analyzing and understanding complex things than I do. Even the dumbest blonde chicks I know are sharper than me. The ones who only think about shopping and doing their nails know more about history, science, economics, and politics than I do. Whenever there is a complex issue brought up at a get together, everyone else can hold their own in the conversation. But I am always floundering. I just wonder where these people learn their information so quickly and efficiently because I spend hours pouring over these topics and seem to be lagging behind in my understanding and analysis of them.

I can understand what other intellectual people, like Sam Harris, are saying and repeat or reinterpret their ideas and analyses, but when it comes to analyzing new complex issues I have not yet been presented with, I just cannot do it. But even the dumbest people around me have an easy time understanding these things effectively. I just get lost and overwhelmed.

Mind you, I come from the south and everyone around me are conservative religious folk. There are also pieces of evidence for this that I cannot really explain. For instance, last night a girl I went to school with, who was notorious for being an air-headed cheerleader, posted a status to facebook about her stances on the whole 'transgender bathroom' issue. She wrote a very coherent, eloquent post with some very well-formed and worded arguments. I was caught in yet another scenario where I did not know the subject matter or the going arguments on either side. I honestly did not know what the whole issue was over. Here was an area where she was much more well-versed and understood on a subject matter that someone like her should have been coming to me for advice on. I could have not wrote such a good post or argument even if I had taken the time study it and understand it. When anti-intellectual people can school you without much time or effort, its just time to give up and admit you are stupid. I am always behind the curve. I should be ahead of it, and I try to be ahead of it, but I'm ineffective and stupid. I only sound smart when I am speaking on things I already understand (things that have taken me years to study about). But I am a very poor original thinker and analyzer of situations and arguments.

That's the only way I know to explain it. Reading back through what I wrote in this post I can see that I did not really communicate my point effectively. Most of you are still not going to understand what I'm talking about.

My recommendations:
1. Study logic and rhetoric, either on your own, in a class, or with a tutor.
2. Find things that interest you and enjoy the process of learning without worrying about the speed.
3. When anyone presents a convincing argument, learn from it rather than envying it. Figure out what impressed you the most and use those yourself.
4. Don't let outward signifiers like someone being a cheerleader guide how you value another human being. You seem to have a feeling that if you are smarter than someone else, you're superior. That's a false judgement that's going to limit your learning capacity.
5. Have yourself tested for learning disabilities.
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21-04-2016, 12:52 PM
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(21-04-2016 11:19 AM)Tampitump Wrote:  I only sound smart when I am speaking on things I already understand (things that have taken me years to study about). But I am a very poor original thinker and analyzer of situations and arguments.

Join the club Rolleyes Original thinking is and has always been in short supply. Why do you think it took us as humans such a bloody long time to invent the wheel? Literally thousands of years, but it's not like it's a difficult concept right?

Intellectual thought doesn't come easy to many people. There are the gifted few, but that's just dumb luck in terms of genes and upbringing.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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21-04-2016, 03:33 PM
 
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 11:43 AM)julep Wrote:  My recommendations:
1. Study logic and rhetoric, either on your own, in a class, or with a tutor.
2. Find things that interest you and enjoy the process of learning without worrying about the speed.
3. When anyone presents a convincing argument, learn from it rather than envying it. Figure out what impressed you the most and use those yourself.
4. Don't let outward signifiers like someone being a cheerleader guide how you value another human being. You seem to have a feeling that if you are smarter than someone else, you're superior. That's a false judgement that's going to limit your learning capacity.
5. Have yourself tested for learning disabilities.

I have studied logic, rhetoric, syllogisms, etc. In fact, I spend most of my time doing just that. I am slow and impaired. I think some of you have a point that I probably have learning disabilities. I would like to go get that diagnosed. It would put some closure to all of this in my mind because then it would be official that I am stupid. I would be diagnosed.

Who would I go to in order to get tested for learning disabilities? I can't help but be skeptical of the results. Would the same person also be able to check me for ADD or ADHD or even depression? I get side tracked very easily and I am always contemplating killing myself. I think about blowing my brains out almost every day. Sometimes I just want to die so bad I can't even stand it.

I DO hate life. I hate it. I'm terrible at it. I'm stupid, lazy, and worthless. I mean that in every sense. I'm unemployed and unemployable. I barely passed high school with a 1.6 GPA. I applied to college after graduation because my parents insisted. I did not think I would get in. I got conditionally admitted to one of my local shitty colleges. I spent three years there failing semester after semester. I eventually got expelled for bad grades and did not even make it past freshman status after three years of attending there.

I'm also a virgin and an unlikable loser. Hell, nothing about me is likable. I can't even be the nerdy know-it-all that everyone hates, but simultaneously have to admit the intellectual prowess of. I have accomplished nothing in my life. I am the prototypical loser. There is no other way to categorize me. I just want to die. I hate myself. I hate every single thing about myself.

I don't want my life to get better at it this point. After so long of wanting it and being denied it, you just kind of stop wanting it after a while. You also grow ill at the idea of it being offered to you. That's where I stand on everything in life at his point. I am an unlikable loser, and the thing is that I recognize and understand exactly why I'm an unlikable loser, but I can't change. I don't think minds can get better. You can only work with what's available in your head. You cannot create intelligence or effectiveness out of something that is not there.

I really do hate myself. One cannot hate themselves or life any more than I do. I think it is obvious that we are the product of physical laws that sometimes create faulty things that don't work sufficiently. I believe that in the realm of human societies that those with these issues must refrain from pro-creation, or even life in many instances. By continuing to live I am occupying time, money, space, and resources that could be consumed by a more worthy person. That is one rationality for me wanting to kill myself. The other one is the fact that I just hate life and I hate myself beyond what words can describe. I wish pain and suffering on myself. That's why I choose the gun as my option. I want to suffer before death.
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